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To: jmacusa; FLT-bird; Monterrosa-24; OIFVeteran
Monterrosa-24 to jmacusa: "If you can not see the tie between the growth of today’s socialist super state and the federal over-reach of the earlier federalism then you are willfully blind.
You’ll be happier over at HuffPost.
Lots of them with be in full agreement with you."

FLT-bird: "Exactly.
This is the direct source of the federal government's usurpation of powers the states never agreed to delegate to it.
Those who cannot see it don't want to see it.
Even biographers like Gore Vidal called Lincoln "the great centralizer".
That was essentially his entire program....to overthrow the original constitution and centralize power in Imperial Washington.
That is the source of most of our problems today."

And those are all absolute Democrat Big Lies.
The real connection between 1860 and today is Democrats going berserk & waging war because they hate the US Constitution and the United States.

Sure, to hear Democrats tell it, you'd think 1860 was over "states rights", but their states' rights were never threatened.
The real truth is 1860 was about, as now, Democrats use of Federal government to enforce special privileges for Democrat voters, period.
Then it was their privilege of owning slaves so Democrats could live the easy-life; today it's their privilege of having taxpayers pay for Democrats' easy-lives.

Everything else Democrats claim is 100% pure nonsense.

491 posted on 08/03/2020 11:32:01 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK
Thanks Joe. As always your spot on analysis of the subject is right to the point.

I must say, when it comes to telling lies these wannabe Johnny Rebs could give Ananias a tip or two.

Here's a little bit of my family's history concerning the Civil War. My great-great grandfather served in a very prominent position in The Surgeon Generals Office during the war in Washington Dc. It was during this time an extensive manual of caring, cataloging, tracking the wounded soldiers and documenting their treatment and care they received was published and is , to some extent is still used. It's called The US Army Surgeons Manual.My great great grandfathers name was William C. Grace. He wrote this manual. You can Google it.

493 posted on 08/03/2020 12:24:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: BroJoeK
And those are all absolute Democrat Big Lies. The real connection between 1860 and today is Democrats going berserk & waging war because they hate the US Constitution and the United States. Sure, to hear Democrats tell it, you'd think 1860 was over "states rights", but their states' rights were never threatened. The real truth is 1860 was about, as now, Democrats use of Federal government to enforce special privileges for Democrat voters, period. Then it was their privilege of owning slaves so Democrats could live the easy-life; today it's their privilege of having taxpayers pay for Democrats' easy-lives. Everything else Democrats claim is 100% pure nonsense.

No, the denial is an absolute Leftist lie. The Democrat party of 1840 and 1860 and 1910 is not the Democrat party of today. The same goes for the Republicans. They have each changed considerably. The lie is that secession was "about" slavery. Plainly it was not. It was about tariffs and economics and more broadly, the centralization of power.

495 posted on 08/03/2020 3:17:07 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: BroJoeK

Confederates vote Republican today and that is why the deep South is solid red. Yankees vote Dem today and that is why Massachusetts and New England are solid blue. You name-called our points a “big lie” but we have all the evidence and all you have are insults.


510 posted on 08/04/2020 12:51:59 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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