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COVID-19 surge pushes US toward deadly cliff
The Hill ^ | 07/12/20 06:00 AM EDT | REID WILSON

Posted on 07/12/2020 10:06:14 AM PDT by robowombat

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FLOYD-19


41 posted on 07/12/2020 11:02:56 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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To: robowombat

We need to be walking around in rubber boots, not masks, the bullschtein is piled so high


42 posted on 07/12/2020 11:20:16 AM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: robowombat

Dear Hill and MSM,

Not shutting down again.

Go back to writing glow pieces about BLM.

But we are not shutting down.

So so so sorry.


43 posted on 07/12/2020 11:21:52 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SteveH

Yes, most new cases are border and migrant related


44 posted on 07/12/2020 11:22:55 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: robowombat

Soros propaganda speweed out by the Hill.


45 posted on 07/12/2020 11:29:02 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: robowombat

Drama. I U. ed’s at &0% is not a normal. How many are covid patients?


46 posted on 07/12/2020 11:31:09 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: hawkaw

Ok Karen, the death rate was over 2,000 per day in early spring.


47 posted on 07/12/2020 11:36:26 AM PDT by datura
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To: mason-dixon

“The GOAL is HERD IMMUNITY — just like regular flu and the common cold.“

What is the evidence for the existence of what you are calling “herd immunity” for any human coronavirus?


48 posted on 07/12/2020 11:37:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: robowombat

WHAT surge? The FAKE, phony, made up, manipulated data surge?

THAT surge?

Corruption runs rampant in today’s society. The “truth” is getting harder and harder to find.


49 posted on 07/12/2020 11:45:42 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jim Noble

Example of Herd Immunity.... Various flu seasons have higher impact to younger folks vice older folks who had already developed natural immunity because of getting similar flu years ago — when they were young.

From a random selection of web pages via search

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/seasonal-influenza/prevention-and-control/vaccines/immunity


50 posted on 07/12/2020 12:01:13 PM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: robowombat

Let’s not forget the nationwide “surge” was triggered by weeks and weeks of rioting and looting backed by the “progressives” in violation of social distancing mandates.


51 posted on 07/12/2020 12:06:27 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Wuli

deaths per number of confirmed cases


You have to measure today’s deaths against cases from 2-3 weeks ago, since it takes 2-3 weeks to die from COVID after once being infected.


52 posted on 07/12/2020 12:08:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: datura
Ok Karen, the death rate was over 2,000 per day in early spring.

2250. The 7 day moving average is back up to 723 now. But for reference, the flu death rate peaks about 1000 a day in a bad flu year. We need to accept the fact of the virus causing some deaths but fewer now that a lot of the vulnerable people in nursing homes have gotten it, and most have gotten over it.

53 posted on 07/12/2020 12:25:16 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: kaehurowing
takes 2-3 weeks to die from COVID after once being infected.

About 10 days between new cases and deaths across the US.

54 posted on 07/12/2020 12:28:12 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: robowombat

I would love to see all these people in prison. They are still throwing a temper tantrum because they didn’t cheat enough to win last time.


55 posted on 07/12/2020 12:31:50 PM PDT by Trillian
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This was exactly what “flattening the curve” was sold asy time for the medical system to prepare.


56 posted on 07/12/2020 1:10:06 PM PDT by jz638
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I had a strange conversation at the state store (PA Liquor Store). They had a sign saying, “Please pay with credit card or debit card....”. I had cash, so I asked if cash was Ok. She said, “yes, we still have some cash. The Wawa (convenience store) across the street is running low, though”. I said, “pardon me???” She said that this cash shortage is coming down straight from Harrisburg. I did a search on this issue, but didn’t find anything. Does anyone know anything about this? Is this just until COVID is over?


57 posted on 07/12/2020 1:10:17 PM PDT by Snowy
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To: robowombat

high level math:....the more people who get the virus, the less people will get the virus...


58 posted on 07/12/2020 1:15:38 PM PDT by cherry
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To: hawkaw; Skywise; datura
Death rates are not dropping and are actually in the rise.

Your unsubstantiated statement appears to be wrong:

Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 6.9% during week 26 to 5.5% during week 27, representing the eleventh week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently below the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks.- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

And simply citing "death rates" is misleading since it fails to differentiate btwn different fatality rates, which has to do with lethality relative to the infection rates, but one reason for the all-ages general “shutdown” is because the fatality rate is exaggerated by typically citing the case fatality rate (CFR) - which is high since it refers to those who were known or suspected to be infected and died, and overall, those who have tested positive are those who had symptoms, thus were the most likely to die - but as World Meters states[1],

The key point is that the “case fatality rate”, the most commonly discussed measure of the risk of dying What we want to know isn’t the case fatality rate: it’s the infection fatality rate.

The latter refers to those estimated to be infected but not tested as being so, and which by far is the majority, with about 80% of such not having symptoms or recovering without medical care. [2] And as regards (even) New York City - which is an extreme case, WorldMeters stated that of May 1,

the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4% (1.4% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 have a fatal outcome, while 98.6% recover).

However, and even more accurate figure as regards the threat COVID-19 poses is that of the Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) that of deaths per 100,000, and Worldometers stated that

As of May 1, 23,430 people are estimated to have died out of a total population of 8,398,748 in New York City. This corresponds to a 0.28% crude mortality rate to date, or 279 deaths per 100,000 population, or 1 death every 358 people.

Then you have the Mortality Rate by Age, regarding which,

“in New York City up to May 12, only 690 (4.5% of all deaths) occurred in patients under the age of 65 who did not have an underlying medical condition.” While those under 65-year-old had a 0.09% CMR to date.

So far there has been 1 death every 1,166 people under 65 years old (compared to 1 death every 358 people in the general population). And 89% of the times, the person who died had one or more underlying medical conditions.

And as noted, NYC is an outlier, with a far higher rate of infections, much due to population density and the harmful pratice of sending infected persons to nursing homes. And close to half of all COVID-19 deaths have occurred in long-term care facilities, especially elder care facilities which account for over 40% of US deaths. [3] [4]

Which means that the 99.4 percent of the country that does not reside in those facilities is roughly half as likely to die of COVID-19,[8] even to the fatality rate of COVID-19 probably being “0.13 percent for people outside nursing homes and 0.26 percent — identical to the CDC best estimate — when people in nursing homes were included.”[5]

See Does COVID-19 truly warrant a nationwide shutdown? for more.

The second reason for the unprecedented reaction to COVID-19 is that of the Democrat political goal to strangle the economy and thereby obtain the White House and force submission to its many immoral demonic and murderous goals.

Footnotes

[1] Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research
[2] https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4#:~:text=For%20COVID%2D19%2C,infections%2C%20requiring%20ventilation. .

59 posted on 07/12/2020 2:18:44 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: robowombat

It’s not spreading

It’s being tested more


60 posted on 07/12/2020 2:19:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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