[artichokegrower]

. They also say it’s more expensive to run an all-electric home. A study by AGA released last year suggested that all-electric homes would pay $750 to $910 a year more for energy-related costs, as well as amortized appliance and upgrade costs.

They don't care. Also during the last two electrical power shut offs here in northern California I could cook food and had warm water. They forget that the majority of California's electrical power is produced by burning natural gas. More electrical demand more gas burned.

[ealgeone]

But they’re doing “something” and that’s really all that matters.....

[Jim W N]

There’s only ONE thing that is ruining our planet: The Delusional Lying Left - The “DLL” Syndrome.

[bgill]

Elton John paid off Meghan Markle and Prince Dum-dum’s private jet carbon footprint so maybe he’ll pay off my teeny one.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Maybe switch to a wood stove ?

[ClearCase_guy]

A lot of electricity is really coal power. Which doesn’t bother me, but might bother the Left.

Natural gas is really a very clean fuel. These people are just foolish,

[I want the USA back]

So that you will use electricity, which they will shut off, to bring you to your knees in total submission to the power of the State.

They plan to shut off gasoline too, and to force you to use an electric car, but that will take a few years! For now, they are training you in compliant submission. Be a good little sheep now!

[bray]

Electricity makes more CO2 than NatGas.

[crusty old prospector]

Gee, I guess the electricity comes from a fairy. Natural gas is much more efficient for home use. Such morons.

[tiki]

I guess they don’t know that many electric plants use natural gas to produce electricity.

[eyeamok]

They forget that the majority of California's electrical power is produced by burning natural gas

Considering there is NO Sustained Alternative Power, which means even during Peak Solar and Wind generation, THE GAS TURBINES ARE STILL RUNNING, I would say we Get NOTHING from so called Alternative Energy.

[setter]

The govt can shut off the stoves and the internet at the same time. Keep the peasants in line and docile.

[beethovenfan]

Rampant stupidity.

[COBOL2Java]

Electric eh? So now you’re cooking with coal!

[Abathar]

Diesel generator companies are just drooling over this as well. The problem with going all electrical is you are at the mercy of a single utility provider. I’m completely electrical where I’m at with geothermal heat and air and everything else. It was great until Duke energy bought out our local power company and jacked the rate up 40% to help “average out” their costs nationwide. Also, you get behind on your single huge bill you’re screwed completely. If there isn’t any competition between the different sources the costs are going to go sky high, just watch, it’s exactly what happened to me. I have a 25kva generator that I can attach to my tractor’s PTO and run both mine and my mothers house by back feeding into the dryer plug if needed. I know, backfeeding and all that, I just always remember to flip the main breaker is all, or if worst comes to worst pull the meter. Every house is going to have something to keep the ice cold when, not if, it all goes to hell, subdivisions will be roaring with the sound of a thousand engines on day three.

[SkyDancer]

PG&E says they’re there to help.

[null and void]

Burn natural gas to run turbines (with the attendant energy losses in the turbines)
use the turbines to spin the generators (with the attendant energy losses in the generators)
take the electricity from the generators and run it through step up transformers to 17kVAC or so (with the attendant energy losses in in the transformers)
rectify the 17kVAC to 17kVDC (with the attendant energy losses in the rectifier stacks)
cram the 17kV down thousand mile long distance power lines, you don't want the generators in YOUR back yard, do you??? (with the attendant energy losses in power lines)
run the remaining 17kVDC through an inverter (with the attendant energy losses in the inverter)
run the 17kVAC through a step down transformer to 440 VAC (with the attendant energy losses in that transformer)
run the 440VAC for a hundred miles of more-or-less local wiring (with the attendant energy losses in the more-or-less local wiring)
run the remaining 440 through neighborhood transformers to step it down to 220 VAC (with the attendant energy losses in those transformers) run the 220 through neighborhood wires (with the attendant energy losses in those wires)
to the "pole pig" transformer near your house to step it down to two phase 110 VAC (with the attendant energy losses in the pole pig)
wire it into your house where half the house is on one phase of 110 VAC, with both phases are used to give the 220 VAC needed for the stove, whater heater and clothes drier.

Count up the "attendant energy losses". You'd be lucky to burn only 6 times as much natural gas at the power plant as you'd need to burn at home to boil a pot of water for your Top Ramen.

[stinkerpot65]

Idiots. It takes more natural gas at the power plant to burn, turbine, bump to 10k volts, transport, bump down to 240, and run it through and electric oven.

[butlerweave]

Too many choices ,that must stop ,LOL

[FreedomPoster]

>> They forget that the majority of California’s electrical power is produced by burning natural gas. More electrical demand more gas burned.

You assume the virtue-signaling morons who enact stuff like this know a thing about where energy really comes from beyond the wall outlet. Thermodynamic geniuses they ain’t.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Sounds like a backup propane system is needed. Just in case the power goes off-again.

Propane is NOT cheap.