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Biden may be leading Trump now, but don't count on him to become the Democratic nominee
Fox News.com ^ | November 5, 2019 | Colin Reed

Posted on 11/05/2019 7:37:41 AM PST by Kaslin

A summer of shaky debate performances morphed into an autumn dominated by his son’s lucrative business interests in Ukraine. A lackluster fundraising quarter led to broken promises on the role of outside money in politics. Yet through it all, former Vice President Joe Biden has maintained a steady general election lead over President Trump.

A new Fox News poll shows Biden beating Trump by a healthy 12 points among registered voters, a wider margin than a month ago and the widest margin of any Democrat in the field. All this as the national debate over Hunter Biden is guaranteed to keep churning as long as impeachment is afoot.

Much like the marquee Hillary Clinton versus Rudy Giuliani match-up prognosticators predicted in the fall of 2007, the odds of a Biden-Trump showdown are diminishing as the former vice president's path to the nomination gets murkier by the day.

Why? It’s not his advanced age or his son’s foreign business activities, although neither issue is without peril. It’s not his so-called “moderate” ideology, or the fact that his campaign is running on financial fumes.

Joe Biden has a Rudy Giuliani problem – and it’s got nothing to do with Ukraine.

First, take a step back. Since the day he launched his campaign in April, Biden has grounded his entire candidacy on electability, with a dash of throwback to the golden Obama years. He argues he is the best equipped to make Trump a one-term proposition. Never mind that much of the rest of the field also beats Trump in national polls, albeit by tighter margins.

Biden has also struggled to articulate a discernible reason to support him. Electability does not make for a compelling long-term message. It’s a process argument rather than a substantive one.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/05/2019 7:37:41 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Wait, wasn’t Butthole O’Rourke beating Trump in the polls?

What happened there?


2 posted on 11/05/2019 7:39:34 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Kaslin

Biden is not leading Trump Fake Polls Look at the turn out for Trump across the USA and look at the turn out for Biden this survey is a Joke.

Trump 2020


3 posted on 11/05/2019 7:39:58 AM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: Kaslin

the golden Obama years?...............No bias there, Faux Snooze...................


4 posted on 11/05/2019 7:40:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Kaslin

All of these “polls” are completely useless and should not be given any credibility. Sampling rates, and questions can skew the results and be made to order.


5 posted on 11/05/2019 7:41:13 AM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: Kaslin

Leading Trump in what?

A bunch of state races that are going to occur at the end of next year?

Doubt it.


6 posted on 11/05/2019 7:41:13 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: Kaslin

The elitist, processing issues, grand-theft, girl-grooming, GROPER? A willing frontman/co-conspirator for the most evil administration in the history of the republic.


7 posted on 11/05/2019 7:43:44 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Red Badger

Those were Biden’s Golden Years, now he’s full shuffleboard and jello.


8 posted on 11/05/2019 7:44:25 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd

Biden is gonna wish he never got in the race at all..............


9 posted on 11/05/2019 7:45:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Kaslin

Trump could lose the popular vote by as much as 7% nationally and still win the White House.


10 posted on 11/05/2019 7:47:37 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Kaslin

I certainly believe that Joe Biden is ahead of Donald Trump. After all, the Mainstream Media polls tell me so.

Besides, at a recent Rose Garden press conference President Hillary Clinton vouched for the veracity and legitimacy of these polls.


11 posted on 11/05/2019 7:54:26 AM PST by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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Just a few minutes ago some chick on the radio said that Biden was ahead by 17 points and Warren by 11. Seriously? Who are they polling to get those nutty results?


12 posted on 11/05/2019 8:06:23 AM PST by surrey
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To: Red Badger

Biden is not leading now. The people who run FNC must know that their polling is crap. Just one glance at the sampling breakdown and anyone can see it. So that being true what does that tell you?


13 posted on 11/05/2019 8:10:07 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Kaslin

Fox is just sucking up trying to get some Debates


14 posted on 11/05/2019 8:10:32 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: surrey

Walter Mondale was ahead of Reagan 9 months before the election, too. We all know how that turned out...


15 posted on 11/05/2019 8:10:56 AM PST by luv2ski
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To: babble-on

Trump could lose the popular vote by as much as 7% nationally and still win the White House.


Exactly, I even heard 10 percent and just barely win the electoral college

We don’t elect presidents based on what California or New York want. That is why these polls are garbage and just a distraction.

Now when you look at the state by state maps, Trump is either creaming these guys or it is very close within a couple points either way. Close races this far out is not good for the Dems. And it shows a lot of undecides are out there and they usually break for the incumbent and definitely in a good/positive economy.

Liz Warren is going to have a tough time to convince all the union workers and corporate workers with good health care benefits to trade that in for medicare. Plus the tax increase that goes with it as well.


16 posted on 11/05/2019 8:14:17 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: surrey

Just a few minutes ago some chick on the radio said that Biden was ahead by 17 points and Warren by 11. Seriously? Who are they polling to get those nutty results?


Good let the morons think they are winning, that way they won’t vote or donate


17 posted on 11/05/2019 8:15:13 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Kaslin

Biden won’t be the nominee. He’s definitely not as hale as Elizabeth Warren.


18 posted on 11/05/2019 8:18:23 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Kaslin

Mrs. Clinton was forecast to be 90-95% likely to win the 2016 election over Trump.

Even Predict it dot com had her favored by upwards of 80% days before the election.

Now we’re seeing the same propagandist full court press to sell us another lemon.

I’ll stick with Orange Man. I phrase it that way, because I’m not sure the rank and file democRat these days actually know what our president’s name is.


19 posted on 11/05/2019 8:20:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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To: Kaslin

It’s likely to be Mayor Buttplug, who could be a challenge for Trump


20 posted on 11/05/2019 8:29:08 AM PST by montag813
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