Posted on 10/18/2019 3:24:22 PM PDT by Kaslin
“You can read your own damn post #4 and my response”
Your response that left out a key word from my post.
can also use to shoot arrows.
No more pumping! Most now are what is called ‘break barrel’ which means the barrel breaks open at a hinge and is pressed forward until the gas piston is fully charged, a pellet is inserted and the barrel is closed back up.
I guess you could say they are pumped once, but the best of them use a gas piston, not a spring piston which is older tech.
With just one cocking they will drive a 22cal 14.5 grain pellet out of the barrel at 800-950 fps. A 18.3 grain pellet is a little slower but hits like a hammer.
You can get them in 177cal, 22cal, or 25cal. I would suggest 22cal which uses pellets you can buy everywhere and is more powerful than the 177cal.
“Are they hand pumped, cylinder or compressed air?”
You can get them that use a compressed air cylinder that you have to take off and have filled with special equipment but those sound like a PITA to use.
The barrel breaker is newer tech, cheap and powerful.
Throw in an AR for the trifecta :o)
If you were looking for raw power in a 22cal break-barrel air rifle the Ruger air Magnum combo looks interesting.
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Ruger_Air_Magnum_Combo/2354#5372
“I’m curious how you can have 15 round Glock mags if you can’t have 15 round Ruger mags.”
When I bought my Ruger P89 the only ones that store had were 10 rounders. The model I have is a single stack, not a double stack.
I just learned something.
I never knew the P-89 was made in single stack. I wonder if the grip was also changed.
I bought one when they first came out. It was a fine pistol but it had the worst feel between the grip and trigger. It always felt like my finger was in an awkward postilion where I could not really pull on the trigger.
It felt like I was trying to push it with my finger, just an unnatural feeling.
I said “single stack” mag because the cartridges load atop one another, rather than a distinct offset as one would find with a double stack mag. However, it appears the main reason the mags are 10 rounders is that there is a “pin” near the bottom of the mag that keeps a bottom plate in place, and that limits the number of cartridges. There are P89 mags that do not have that pin, and that particular bottom plate, and those mags will handle 15. I know there are after-market P89 mags that are like that. But, for whatever reason, the store from which I purchased this model only carried the 10-round mags.
Also, I changed out the grips a few years ago and that made a difference in ergonomics, for the better.
I consider my P89 as more of a back-up gun to my Glock 19.
Thanks Beagle, things change when you aren't looking I guess. Twelve hundred feet per second is in the neighborhood 22 lr, faster than a subsonic so not silent either.
Could a small kid, or older woman cock it?
See my post #189, wherein I addressed this issue.
Also, I fully understand your comment about the grips. I changed out the factory grips some years ago, and it made a lot of difference.
Ammo is plentiful and there’s no possibility of a jam.
If you live in an urban area where you have to worry about feral zombies, well....you made that choice.
my current personal favorite trifecta is ;
kel-tec KSG
Para Ord..45 Warthog (great conseal carry pants by strykr tactical.)
Ruger mini-14 (best plicker ever, taught my wife and kids how to shoot with it, killed everything from rats and chipmonks to fisher and fox. wouldn’t hesitate to hunt deer with it if it were legal.
LOL
OK, I think I understand what you meant by single stack. Just about all high capacity pistol mags are double stack. They start out as double stack then are funneled to a single feed at the top.
I have seen a handful of high and very high capacity mags which stay double all the way and alternate between left and right. Sort of like the Mauser rifles and most other high power rifles.
True single stack are like the .45 auto which is a single round all the way down.
I have a RIA Model 200 .38 Special and that’s about all I need. I might in the future acquire a single shot, break action 20 gauge that my wife can use to back me up.
keep me on your list, please.
“Depends on the circumstances.”
Absolutely! I hope you show her all the instances of Glocks accidentally discharging.
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