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ELECTORAL COLLEGE OVERWHELMINGLY FAVORS REPUBLICANS, ABOLISHING ENTIRE SYSTEM ONLY REMEDY: STUDY
Newsweak ^ | 10/12/19 | BENJAMIN FEARNOW

Posted on 10/13/2019 8:22:16 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: READINABLUESTATE

They changed the rules for 2018 and couldn’t even win a House supermajority.

If Democrats are so popular, winning elections should be a slam dunk for them.

Since they don’t think it will happen, no wonder they want fo impeach President Trump.


121 posted on 10/13/2019 10:55:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Libloather

The author of this news article, BENJAMIN FEARNOW, is nothing more than a LIBERAL DIP$HIT being PAID to try to spread an AGENDA.


122 posted on 10/13/2019 10:55:48 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Libloather
The study authors found that the Electoral College's winner-take-all approach favors Republicans and has pushed them to victories in 2000 and 2016.

English translation - it limits croked blue states' ability to steal elections, because Kalifornia could go 300,000,000 to 0 for Kameltoe and she could still lose cause they have only 65 EV. Second point - EC does not mandate winner take all, it just prevents CA & NY from picking/stealing POTUS for the rest of us.

123 posted on 10/13/2019 10:59:52 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: unread

When Rats don’t like something, it’s a pretty good bet is working correctly.


124 posted on 10/13/2019 11:03:40 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Libloather
A vote for ANY Democrat at ANY level of government is a VOTE AGAINST AMERICA!
125 posted on 10/13/2019 11:12:58 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: HangnJudge

This is positively hilarious the Democrats start out with New York California Illinois and like 200 and something electoral votes without even putting anybody’s name in front of the D on the ballot

Are great and wonderful president Donald J Trump was brilliant and campaign did Wisconsin and Pennsylvania Michigan in South Carolina Florida and all of these purple states where he knew we had to win including mean where he campaigned hard to get one single electoral vote!


126 posted on 10/13/2019 11:14:03 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Libloather
If as stated in the comments, it’s up to each state to determine how their electoral votes are cast. The Natural Popular Vote project is a way to bypass the constitution without a constitutional amendment.

The liberals here in Colorado have embraced most of the wacky democrat ideas. I’m surprised we haven’t joined the after birth abortion club.

127 posted on 10/13/2019 11:30:44 AM PDT by Taylor42 (Autism - the ignored epidemic)
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To: Libloather

Alternatively, the Democrats could try fielding candidates who represented the interests of people outside our major cities.

The electoral college isn’t designed to benefit Republicans, it’s designed to limit the power of geographically-limited factions.

And that’s a good thing.


128 posted on 10/13/2019 11:33:58 AM PDT by jdege
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To: fireman15

Agree.

UT can’t see out of their liberal fog which clouds Austin, TX. Used to be a great city, now pathetic with all the perfect people who can barely walk they lean so left.


129 posted on 10/13/2019 11:45:16 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Libloather; bitt
***The Republican Party is set to win a large majority of all future close presidential elections, even contests in which they lose the popular vote, according to a recent study***

Bring on mob rule! Abolish the Constitution. Antifa forever!

130 posted on 10/13/2019 11:48:16 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: bert

NEVER ADMIT to keeping a list; always remember they keep lists too.


131 posted on 10/13/2019 12:09:30 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

‘Make it where the winner of that state has to win the most counties.’

not counties; congressional districts...


132 posted on 10/13/2019 12:28:22 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Vigilanteman

‘There is nothing stopping any or all of the other 48 states from adopting the more realistic district system used in Maine and Nebraska.’

nothing whatsoever; in the 1824 election, a majority of states first employed this idiotic winner take all system, in order to maximize support for preferred candidates, and once this happened, other states had to follow suit so as not to be left behind...


133 posted on 10/13/2019 12:41:34 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Libloather

The Electoral College is a genius thing to keep the voting fair for the country. The democrats always want to abolish it whenever they lose.


134 posted on 10/13/2019 12:44:15 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (After Trump-then what?)
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To: goldstategop

I agree that the general population is not on the side of the Democrats on the issues. Re: that - many voters pay no attention to the issues only the letter behind the name” R vs D.

The only way Democrats can win the EC vote is mostly due to the inner city voters - where new immigrants are not yet aware of the corruption and lies of the Democrats, and the majority of the black community are not lucky enough to have fathers in the homes - or - to be educated in decent schools.

The EC must cannot be abolished without denying the rural voters and non-coastal voters of any valid representation.


135 posted on 10/13/2019 12:44:28 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In Connecticut, it would be most towns since we don’t have counties... If it happened, the small towns would be more powerful than Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven and Mansfield...


136 posted on 10/13/2019 1:09:13 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Libloather

For the millionth time....there’s no such thing as “popular vote”....it’s not a thing...never was, and only will be at our peril.


137 posted on 10/13/2019 1:20:11 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Libloather

Bullshit.dimos start out with kalifornia and new norks electoral votes.Its like we spot them those.


138 posted on 10/13/2019 2:26:14 PM PDT by weezel
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To: Libloather
Perhaps the most thorough, well-founded and complete explanation of how the Framers of America's Constitution of the United States of America "constituted" a form of self-government which was--in the words of Benjamin Franklin, "A Republic. . . if you can keep it. . . . " can be found in John Quincy Adams's "Jubilee" Address, delivered, by invitation of the New York Historical Society, in New York City in April 1839. That Jubilee Address magnificently explained the reasons for the Framers' choice of republic over that of a democracy.

If you want to have handy for constitutionally-illiterate Progressives who may call this a "democracy," then you want to read that Address.

Today, in 2018, when confronted with a decision between individual freedom and slavery, otherwise known as liberty and tyranny, Americans who prefer freedom must be armed with ideas and principles which are "self-evident" and plain. Otherwise, they cannot fend off the onslaught of the "counterfeit ideas" of Progressive ideologues.

When America's Founders and Framers of their Constitution wanted to convince ordinary farmers and citizens of the merits of a written "People's" Constitution to limit the powers of those to whom they entrust the powers of government, they published and circulated 85 essays, known as THE FEDERALIST.

It's time for citizens, once again, to examine those strong and clear words of Madison Hamilton, and Jay. They are just as clear for today's audience as they were then. Circulate the following excerpts to your friends. Even the least politically savvy will "get" Madison's meaning, especially in light of the power grab now going on in Washington. After all, THE FEDERALIST was the Framers' authoritative explanation of their Constitution, and directed by the Board of Visitors of the University of Virginia in 1825 to be used as the text for its law school in its studies of "the general principles of liberty and the rights of man," and said by Jefferson to "constitute 'the general opinion of those who framed, and of those who accepted the Constitution of the U.S., on questions as to its genuine meaning.'":

"The house of representatives... can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as the great mass of society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interest, and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"Such will be the relation between the House of Representatives and their constituents. Duty gratitude, interest, ambition itself, are the cords by which they will be bound to fidelity and sympathy with the great mass of the people." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"If it be asked what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer, the genius of the whole system, the nature of just and constitutional laws, and above all the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for; but one in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"The propensity of all single and numerous assemblies (is) to yield to the impulse of sudden and violent passions, and to be seduced by factious leaders into intemperate and pernicious resolutions." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue; or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change and can trace its consequences; a harvest reared not by themselves but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow citizens. This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that laws are made for the few not for the many." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

Note particularly the following words of wisdom from Federalist No. 63, and take heart. You are doing what you were meant to do when you speak out on intrusions on your liberty.  According to Madison:

"As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind?" - Federalist Papers, No. 63, 1788

 

139 posted on 10/13/2019 2:37:24 PM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: j.havenfarm
In 2011, Pennsylvania had a GOP governor, both houses of the legislature in GOP hands and legislation pending to do this very thing. Most people in the Commonwealth supported it, even some of the centerist Democrats in SW Pennsylvania who were sick and tired of Philadelphia dictating everything.

The left threw an absolute hissy fit. But what ultimately killed it was the @$$hat GOP chairman who felt it would dilute our national influence. Seriously, more visits here competing for chunks of electoral votes versus being taken for granted would dilute our national influence?

I still think it is a good idea even if it meant crooked Hillary would've picked up 4 or 5 of our 20 electoral votes in 2016.

140 posted on 10/13/2019 2:56:20 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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