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1 posted on 09/05/2019 11:06:55 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Few people would care, just like so many didn’t care in 1975.

Just so long as they remain comfortable is what they care about


2 posted on 09/05/2019 11:11:30 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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Staying could lead to our collapse.


3 posted on 09/05/2019 11:15:22 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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Well we barely make the airport
For the last plane out
As we taxied down the runway
I could hear the people shout
They said, “don’t come back here Yankee”
But if I ever do
I’ll bring more money
‘Cause all she wants to do is dance
And make romance
Never mind the heat
Comin’ off the street
She wants to party
She wants to get down
All she wants to do is
All she wants to do is dance


4 posted on 09/05/2019 11:24:05 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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I’d say the likelihood of his prediction is about 200%. But, what are the alternatives?

15 members of the US military have died in that country fighting, what amounts to, a mafia family or Cartel. Nothing more. There is no more strategic value in fighting the Taliban, opium growers or anyone else in that place.

We either go back there, in force and make them our subjects, kick out the Chinese and take their natural resources or we pull out.

The Chinese have, or are about to, roped the Afghani’s into a debt trap. Afghani leadership is just as manipulative and greedy as any on the planet and will take the money, run and move to Dubai or Doha, before they get their heads chopped off.

It’s one or the other.


6 posted on 09/05/2019 11:30:20 PM PDT by qaz123
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South Vietnam lasted 3 years after the complete withdrawal of US forces, but only because the North was getting massive infusions of Chinese and Soviet aid even while the US was cutting aid to South Vietnam. Najibullah lasted 3 years after the withdrawal of Soviet troops, but his government fell only after Soviet aid was cut off. Assuming US aid to the Afghan security forces remains at around $5b a year, there’s no reason to think the Afghan government will fall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War#Confronting_U.S._escalation
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files?file=2018-10/54219-oco_spending.pdf

The reality of counter-insurgency is that it takes decades, assuming the government is unwilling to engage in mass killings that remove significant numbers of enemy civilians from the chessboard. The Colombian counterinsurgency war has been going on for 50+ years. Morocco fought its Berber rebels for 16 years. The Injuns, of course, gave up their fight only after 300+ years of armed resistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_conflict
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Wars

A conflict often touted as a shining example of British proficiency in counter-insurgency nonetheless lasted 40 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Emergency


8 posted on 09/05/2019 11:40:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Pre-Sept 11, Al Queda was brought in as the military arm of the Taliban. Why is there still a Taliban???!


9 posted on 09/05/2019 11:44:23 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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Frankly, Afghanistan is a lost cause - 8 years of Obama has ensured that.

The fact that we are negotiating directly with the re constituted Taliban, which was seriously put fown under President Bush speaks volumes.

It’s not for nothing that a defense intelligence expert told Congress , “ the Taliban is inside the building “ . That building included the White House


12 posted on 09/05/2019 11:59:05 PM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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No $hit Sherlock!

Were out of here!! The ass wipes can have it.


13 posted on 09/06/2019 12:01:58 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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Well, maybe the “government” should have spent the last 10+ years establishing itself rather than enriching itself.....


18 posted on 09/06/2019 12:22:29 AM PDT by JParris
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meh

Yahoo ain’t where I go to get analysis


19 posted on 09/06/2019 12:38:00 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Making the case for never ending wars.


22 posted on 09/06/2019 1:14:23 AM PDT by McGruff (The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.)
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Let's haul ass out, and leave it to the Chinese. No countries and governments more richly deserve each other that the light touch of the Chinese Central Committee, and the honest, deep humanity of the Afghan tribal leaders. China REALLY knows how to handle illegal drug producers.

And this time, we don't bail the animals out with Stingers and covert support. China will bleed from the eyes...

One more thing. China smuggles opium into the US, to those dim enough to use it. Junkies kill themselves with it. We just lost a cure for cancer? This century old experiment in social engineering called the Drug War is a failure.

23 posted on 09/06/2019 1:19:13 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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I don’t give a damn. Let them kill each other.


25 posted on 09/06/2019 2:15:23 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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of course the way to effectively cancel a “what if “ scenario is to pull out of Afghanistan and nuke the crap out of the entire country.


27 posted on 09/06/2019 3:42:57 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T)
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Except this time the U.S. won’t be a refuge for them.


28 posted on 09/06/2019 3:46:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Pulling out of Afghanistan could lead to 'another Saigon,' counterterrorism expert warns

As I predicted 48 hours after the towers fell, George W. Bush elected to fight a Vietnam war in South Asia.

And, as TomasUSMC always says, "fight like Nam, finish like Nam".

So, since Vietnam wars always end with the last chopper off the roof of the American embassy, that's how Afghanistan has to end.

What a waste.

30 posted on 09/06/2019 4:25:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Pulling out of Afghanistan could lead to 'another Saigon,' counterterrorism expert warns

So?

34 posted on 09/06/2019 4:31:57 AM PDT by Magnatron
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Oddly, I worry more about another 9/11.


36 posted on 09/06/2019 4:40:21 AM PDT by hawkaw
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If there was a change of rules, the problem would end

For every dead American, there must be 25 dead Taliban. That includes Taliban in Burkas.

Then, kill off those at the funerals


40 posted on 09/06/2019 5:18:23 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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He’s a Muslim and a former FBI agent, which means that anything he says is likely to be the precise opposite of what is true.


41 posted on 09/06/2019 5:20:31 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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