Posted on 07/03/2019 1:40:21 PM PDT by Kaslin
Modern libertarianism is founded on ideas of the prevalence of individual rights, privacy, and respect for private property and the absolute negation of coercion and involuntary restrictions toward sovereign individuals. Traditionally, compulsion is associated with the institution of the state, which libertarians consider a necessary evil.
However, we should not forget that the emergence of the state logically follows from the libertarian philosophy itself. It recognizes that humans are lawful owners of their bodies and consciousness and varying in their physical and mental abilities. At the same time, all humans are born free and equal before the laws of the land; they are endowed with natural rights in their pursuit of happiness. The delicate interplay of nature and nurture results in a whole pallet of skills that differentiates people in their commercial undertakings. It feeds the specialization and division of labor at different levels, from the primitive division between the sexes to the global division of labor.
As social beings, humans strive for self-organization, which they carry out by stratification of society and imposition of rules that minimize violence within a community. The emergence of power that establishes and enforces a set of behavioral rules and norms prevents a total war, with everyone against everyone for scarce resources and others' property.
Therefore, the urgent problem of protecting private property and the sovereign life of an individual creates an institution of defense and justice, which eventually becomes a state. In other words, the state is the making of economic necessity. However, the appearance of the state has one significant side effect: the state becomes a factor in the economy. This is primarily due to the fact that the state has the exclusive right to taxation, control over imports and exports, the ability to incite wars for territorial gains,
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Libertarian dittos. We have our heads buried in the sand on too many issues but on paper we’re perfect.
There is much to admire about mainstream libertarian sentiment. But far too many who self identify as libertarian today are in fact little more than thinly disguised anarchists. And I have no patience for that nonsense.
They need to be outspoken against abortion.
Another problem is that so-called libertarians are really libertinists. That is they want to be able do every immoral or stupid act but then have the government pay for the consequences. E.g., a motorcyclist, who is not wearing a helmet had an accident and has a terrible head injury. Should the public ambulance provide aid and the hospital provide care? These libertinists have no problem with that. So much for having responsibility for your own body.
Pot is legal now. Doesn’t that mean libertarianism has achieved 99% of its goals?
In an unscientific poll, I served 4 years active duty and never talked to one Libertarian. We talked politics a lot. Serving their country is not their thing.
Libertarianism lost its viability when it embraced Ayn Rand’s largely unconstrained hedonism.
They are responsible for a few Democrat senators in red states in the northwest. Shaved votes that otherwise would’ve gone Republican. Still the GOP is still stupid so you can’t blame him anymore than you can blame Nader for putting 43 in office.
Most true libertarians would say there should be no public ambulances or hospitals in the first (which I agree with entirely) place so there is a flaw in your argument
I’d also say no public schools, housing, or anything else of the sort
They(Lie-ber-terrorists) have infected the GOP to the point where “free trade” is now considered a conservative position! Talk about a 180. They have left us defenseless in a mercantilist world.
My sentiments exactly. I consider myself a conservative with a libertarian streak, but I am very much in favor of a strong, moral social order that may involve government intervention that may seem out of line for a lot of conservatives.
Modern libertarianism is immoral. I don’t know how or why individuals co-opted the morality out of their viewpoints. But they did. And as such are useless.
Conservative Libertarians are some of the best most articulate people I know, Liberal Libertarians are some of the worst most vile.
Libertarians don’t buy votes. In the end everybody wants something from the government. Whether it’s direct handouts or “incentives” that are basically handouts. People talk principles but they want you to put something in their wallet, and taking less out just never seems to cut it.
Afraid they can't go there if they are true Libertarians.
Plenty of (small l) libertarians served in the military, myself included.
“no public ambulances or hospitals in the first (which I agree with entirely)”
If you live in a rural area, will a for-profit ambulance service be available when you need them? I tend to doubt it. Does that mean that anyone who wants emergency medical care available for their family will just have to move to inner city hell holes? Is that what we really want?
Yeah, right, they believe that for at least one of the parties in an abortion.
I was a Libertarian activist for years, even ran for political office as one, but broke with the Party over the issue of abortion since it so egregiousy contradicts the putative Libertarian principle of non-aggression. Individuals own their bodies and have rights over them that other individuals, groups, and governments may not violate.
Libertarians for Life: https://www.l4l.org/
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