Confirmed: No Link Between Autism and Measles Vaccine, Even for 'At Risk' Kids

Live Science ^ | 3/4/2019 | Laura Geggel

[Gamecock]

Children who receive the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine are not at increased risk for autism, and that includes children who are sometimes considered to be in "high risk" groups for the neurodevelopmental disorder, a massive new study finds.

The new study, published today (March 4) in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, is one of the largest studies of its kind to date. In it, researchers looked at the records of more than 657,000 children born in Denmark between 1999 and 2010, including about 6,500 who had received an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) diagnosis. ASD is a neurodevelopmental condition that affects a person's ability to communicate, interact and behave appropriately with others in social situations.

The study shows, as many before it have time and again, that "[caregivers] shouldn't choose to not vaccinate because of this punitive association between the MMR [vaccine] and autism," said study principal investigator Anders Hviid, a senior researcher in the Department of Epidemiology Research at Statens Serum Institut in Copenhagen. "There's really strong science that there is no association." [Beyond Vaccines: 5 Things That Might Really Cause Autism]

"Irrespective of the absolute costs, the opportunity cost of this research should be kept in mind: For example, continuing to evaluate the MMR-autism hypothesis might come at the expense of not pursuing some of the more promising leads" related to autism's causes and treatments, Omer wrote in the editorial.

[DJ MacWoW]

I don't think that I would. When I was a child and was given vaccines I became very ill. And I still had whooping cough, both types of measles and chicken pox but not mumps.

I'm not against all vaccines but they push too many too fast with dangerous additives.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Where’s actual scientific study on the effects of pumping Thimerosal, Aluminum, Formaldehyde, Human fetal cells, Cancerous tumor cells, Monkey kidneys, Fetal cow serum, Mouse brain and Chicken embryos into children? ”

I don’t remember those vaccine ingredients being the subject of studies, but...

What could be more natural than human fetal, mouse, chicken, and monkey cells being injected into a baby - followed with thimerosal as a chaser...?

[DJ MacWoW]

Yup! Imagine anyone objecting! ;-)

[cotton]

Pregnant women who got measles or rubella (I can not remember which) often had babies with related problems, such as deafness, I have been told.

[Conserv]

Well put.

My father was military, so we definitely had to have our “shots.”

And, it was all put down in that little yellow book.

When something was going around at UGA(I can’t remember what), everyone had to get a shot unless you could prove you already had it.

So, I drove the 3 hrs home to get my yellow book, but it didn’t save me. I still had to get the shot.

[Buckeye McFrog]

The bottom line is always. Any medicine (anything really!) is not 100% safe.

Bingo! Correct! And the fact that "science" plus the government keeps trying to sell this as being 100% safe makes me VERY, VERY SUSPICIOUS.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Like anything else in life a cost/benefit analysis needs to be done.

All vaccines carry some degree of risk. But if a disease has a very high rate of fatality perhaps you roll the dice.

When I was a kid there were six or seven required shots. Today in some states they are pushing fifty. There just aren’t that many diseases out there which justify the risk.

The cynic in me believes that they know some small % of recipients will be killed or disabled, but they are willing to write them off as the cost for immunizing society. They just won’t say that.

[so_real]

I see they didn’t test the new 6 in 1 vaccine.

That is a point well made for those who have ears to hear.

[Harpotoo]

Nope, it just makes them gay:-)

[rlmorel]

The truth is, that vaccine has probably saved tens or hundreds of thousands of young children from life long crippling attacks of polio, a lifetime in an iron lung or being intubated, never mind death.

In one year...ONE YEAR...in the US ALONE there were 57,628 reported cases with 3,145 deaths.

The panic back then, of parents who had no idea how it was communicated, or if their child had been exposed is something we have a difficult time understanding today.

It is something to be sad about. But it isn't something to sue over. There were a lot of parents whose children were crippled to varying degrees or killed outright who would have given their life savings to give their child even a chance at the vaccine if it had been developed.

Criticism of vaccines is fine. But there is another side to these things, and that should be kept in mind.

[DJ MacWoW]

I read somewhere that only 58% of people become immune. Also that some diseases are lessened or eradicated because of better sanitation and hygiene.

I'm thinking most vaccines are a scam.

[ConservativeMind]

I just looked up what vaccines they give kids today, based on schedule:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html#birth-15

I am shocked at how much crap they put into babies at no risk! What infant needs to get, within 24 hours of birth, the Hepatitis B vaccine? You can only get Hep B from infected needles and unsafe sex! What are doctors expecting out of our children? Are they trying to make it safer for an adult to have sex with a one-day old without consequence to the one-day old?

This is CR@P!

[ConservativeMind]

Yeah, like adults having sex with one day old babies, so that’s why the Hep B is given to one day olds.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html#birth-15

[PleaseNoMore]

Say the agency owned by a pharmaceutical co/vaccine maker.

Yeah. I’ll buy that. /s

Tell that to the thousands of parents who’ve watched their otherwise previously healthy child regress immediately following the MMR vaccine.

Explain why the autism rate has increased by 15% to nearly 1 in every 40 children. Look at the vaccine schedule today when compared to that of say 20 years ago. Ten years ago, even. Um, yeah - spin it anyway ya wanna, correlation certainly does equal causation.

[Reily]

I don’t interpret what the government or pharmaceutical companies have said as ever claiming these things are literally 100%. If I tell someone that (Pulling these numbers out of thin air!) ‘for this vaccine if given to a population of 10 million people, 10 it will kill, 15 it will cripple, 100 it will do nothing’. So your chance of a non-positive result is .0000125. Very few people would have a problem with releasing that vaccine unless they’re one of that .0000125 and then only if harms them. (Actually the bad stats are probably way too high to ever release that vaccine! I don’t really know!) Most people (including government people!) would say its perfectly safe. It is perfect - 100% . It’s not! But it will be interpreted that way by 99.99999% of the people listening.
Then when the “defect” occurs, the actual facts are forgotten (if ever learned !) and politicians and other demagogues make hay!!

The government also has for 75 years or so told everyone social security is a retirement plan & not a Ponzi scheme. A lot of people on this site believe the retirement plan claim!

[mlo]

"I’m sorry, but my level of trust in these people has broken down to the point that I can’t rely on that as being true."

Yet you should trust the people that blame vaccines, when they have no science behind them? Makes no sense.

If you have children you have to make a choice. Make the choice that is rational and scientific, and holds communicable diseases at bay. This is a no-brainer really.

[JonPreston]

What infant needs to get, within 24 hours of birth, the Hepatitis B vaccine?

No infant needs it but hey, look at the propaganda pictures, they LOVE vaccines!

[Mariner]

Yes, regnant women who get Rubella often have birth defects.

That’s why the mothers of little girls would ENSURE they got the German Measles, even if they had to travel for it.

Or, they did until the 1960s.

[mlo]

"So they don't know what causes autism, but they do know what doesn't cause it."

There's nothing remarkable about that. You can test for associations between different things without having a causal factor. If vaccines caused autism it would show up in the numbers. It doesn't.

[editor-surveyor]

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Still do!

Just can’t talk about it these days.