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To: SMGFan
Hellmeier said, according to the probable cause statement, that "he advised that he told the defendant and victim that they shouldn't be playing with guns and that they were police officers. He felt uncomfortable with them playing with guns and didn't want to have any part of it and he started to leave. As he left the room but before leaving the apartment he heard a shot. He went back into the room and saw that the victim had been shot in the chest."

Anyone else thinks this explanation sounds a bit off. Three people involved. The victim, off duty cop Katlyn Alix, 24, and two cops on duty Nathaniel Hendren, 29, the shooter, and Sgt. Richard Hellmeier, Hendren's partner.

So we are to believe the two cops decided to play a game of Russian roulette and the sergeant advised against it but allegedly was going to just walk out of the apartment while they played their "game"? Any why were the two on duty cops at Alix's apartment in the first place?

21 posted on 01/26/2019 4:46:09 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Flick Lives
So we are to believe the two cops decided to play a game of Russian roulette and the sergeant advised against it but allegedly was going to just walk out of the apartment while they played their "game"? Any why were the two on duty cops at Alix's apartment in the first place?

I think there is likely more to the story. Maybe an affair going on.

But what did you expect the Sergeant to do?

They were not on duty.

He had no official control over them.

He told them to stop.

When they did not take his advice, he said he wanted no part of the foolishness.

What should he have done?

It made no sense for him to pull a gun on them or to shoot them.

29 posted on 01/26/2019 4:56:25 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Flick Lives

To me, that does not pass the smell test. I think that they killed the girl. She was probably doing one or both of them and for one reason or another decided to break it off. They stopped by to get a little on the side. She said no and they became angry. For one reason or another one of them shot her. Why? Who knows. It could be a “If we can’t have you, no one will.” Or it could have happened in a second of uncontrollable rage. Whatever the reason, they have a girl on the floor dead or dying and what they are going to do? They come up with this story. And why not? By the time his lawyer gets through presenting his case to the jury, the jury will vote to have the judge and prosecutor arrested for persecuting this innocent person and putting him through this trauma. The victim? The victim has been forgotten since they took her out of the apartment in a body bag.


102 posted on 01/26/2019 7:43:50 AM PST by sport
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