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More than 6000 mail-in ballots in Florida were not counted: officials
the hill ^ | December 10, 2018

Posted on 12/11/2018 1:53:54 AM PST by SMGFan

More than 6,000 mailed ballots in Florida went uncounted in November's midterm elections, according to a report by the Associated Press.

Officials at the Florida Department of State informed a federal judge last week that 6,670 ballots that were mailed in ahead of the November 6 midterm election were left uncounted because they arrived after Election Day.

Ballots mailed inside the U.S. must reach election offices by 7 p.m. on Election Day under current Florida law. It is not yet clear why the ballots did not make it to the election offices on time.

According to The Associated Press, the missing ballots came from 65 of Florida's 67 counties.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: absentee; ballots; florida; post
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To: SMGFan
"Officials at the Florida Department of State informed a federal judge last week that 6,670 ballots that were mailed in ahead of the November 6 midterm election were left uncounted because they arrived after Election Day."

And the farmer hauled another load away.....

61 posted on 12/11/2018 6:28:33 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Ambrosia

and in Minnesota those people, and people in a much worse mental state (IE almost brain dead) still vote..

a democrat comes in and tries to “decide” their choice for them.

see our election results for the outcome.


62 posted on 12/11/2018 6:53:24 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: a little elbow grease

Around here polls are open 12 hours..

how could a working stiff not make it to the polls during those 12 long hours?


63 posted on 12/11/2018 6:54:47 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: SMGFan

SO, WHO DID THESE LATE BALLOTS BENEFIT?

WERE THEY ENOUGH TO SWING ANY STATEWIDE OR LOCAL ELECTIONS?.................


64 posted on 12/11/2018 7:03:00 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: SMGFan

I SEEM TO REMEMBER IN 2004, THE ‘U.S.POST OFFICE’ INTENTIONALLY DELAYED THOUSANDS OF MILITARY BALLOTS FROM OVERSEAS.................


65 posted on 12/11/2018 7:05:06 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Ambrosia

Regardless this free for all needs to be tightened up

It’s a vote mine for the left


66 posted on 12/11/2018 7:06:25 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: a little elbow grease

A lot of foreign nations do that


67 posted on 12/11/2018 7:09:09 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: knarf

I’ve always thought that States should contract with a private accounting or auditing firm to manage the elections and ballot counting. A private company has strong incentive to make sure their reputation isn’t tarnished and will highly diligent in following all laws and regulations.

Governments don’t have the same pressure to produce exemplary results like private companies do.


68 posted on 12/11/2018 7:16:41 AM PST by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: SMGFan

I thought in most states the rule was that the mail in ballot must only be “postmarked” by a certain time, because those mailing their ballot in have no control over when they get delivered after the post office gets them. They were counting ballots for over a week after election day, so, in a practical sense it seems like they certainly had time to count the late-recieved mail in ballots - at least those postmarked before the polls closed.


69 posted on 12/11/2018 7:17:41 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Crolis

Good point ... I agree.


70 posted on 12/11/2018 7:22:22 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: SMGFan

Hardly.... folks mail their ballots late, and they don’t get there in time... happens regularly...

More than 8 Million votes cast, 6500 mailed to late to arrive on time? Not out of the ordinary at all.


71 posted on 12/11/2018 7:29:08 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Wuli

Sorry, but not how it works. The law is RECEIVED By, not postmarked by. Always has been.


72 posted on 12/11/2018 7:30:30 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

as long as with certainty we can say a letter cannot be postmarked before a date. But it looks like it must arrive by Election Day. Postmark did not matter.

The ballots need to be examined to see when the voter signed his ballot , where they were mailed from & postmarked. To identify causes of delays.


73 posted on 12/11/2018 8:05:36 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: jch10

Absentee ballot requests and returns can be delayed by circumstances such as illness or the infirmity of the requesting voter. On more than one election day, I have driven around collecting and returning absentee ballots from elderly shut-ins, from people who are ill or on crutches or in a wheelchair due to an accident, and from harried young mothers stuck at home with children. The truth of the reason for why they need such last-minute help is usually obvious and incontestable.


74 posted on 12/11/2018 8:11:27 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: pas

I meant that people in the military should be allowed to mail in their votes as they are unable to be there in person. Similar to people in the hospital. It’s out of their control to be able to get to the polling location on Election Day. Everyone else needs to be there. If there are long lines the city should just make more voting booths available.


75 posted on 12/11/2018 9:34:06 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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To: SMGFan

“on time” doesn’t seem like it is defined here. Florida law apparently doesn’t have a “postmark by date” rule, but instead a “delivered to polling place by” rule.

I understand why you want that, so you can report results that night.

But how is a voter supposed to know when to send their ballot in? Is a week enough, 2 weeks? You are at the mercy of a quasi-government agency to get your stuff delivered.

Given that there is usually a week before things are certified, I should think that a rule that any ballot received before 1 day prior to the certification deadline should be counted, so long as it was POSTMARKED before the election.

On the other hand, I think you can imply that the post office inability to deliver is probably an unbiased random thing, and the missed ballots should in some ways match the ones that made it.


76 posted on 12/11/2018 2:44:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cableguymn

Well, *THIS* working stiff works a 12 hour day. I leave the house around 6 am and get back home around 8 pm.

Fortunately, my employer allows me time to vote during the workday. I am even PAID for that time, which is VERY rare!


77 posted on 12/11/2018 4:44:33 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Don W

90 seconds in the voting booth. That’s all we need. A Democrat will squeal for more time because they can’t read.


78 posted on 12/12/2018 1:29:32 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Don W

I thought by law they had to if you are working the whole time the poll is open.


79 posted on 12/12/2018 3:20:24 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: SMGFan

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>> “It is not yet clear why the ballots did not make it to the election offices on time.” <<

Most likely military ballots.


80 posted on 12/12/2018 3:27:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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