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WHEN DID NASA GO TO POT?
Powerline ^ | 11/25/2018 | Steven Hayward

Posted on 11/25/2018 3:05:13 PM PST by DFG

If you study the history of NASA’s Apollo program in the 1960s, one thing you come to realize is that the tight timetable to reach the moon by the end of the decade meant that NASA didn’t have time to ossify into a bureaucracy, and they did things (i.e., took risks) in those days that would never be permitted today.

But you knew NASA had slipped into the maw of the administrative state when President Obama told NASA administrator Charles Bolden in 2010 that “Muslim outreach” should be a primary mission for the space agency.

Well now it appears NASA doesn’t even want to go to Mars even if it could go to Mars. Gizmodo offers an account of recent panel discussion about Mars hosted by Lucianne Walkowicz, the NASA/Library of Congress Chair in Astrobiology, and you have to read this, not to believe it, because of course the real problem with going to Mars is that it would represents “colonialism.” No, seriously, that’s what the thinking is:

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apollo; chanda; charlesbolden; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; nasa; obamanation; prescod; spacex; walkowicz
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To: Calvin Locke; Paladin2; Trumpet 1
"I date it to Bush 41"

GHW Bush implemented the Mission to Planet Earth in 1989 but that wasn't solely his responsibility. Today that is known as NASA Earth Sciences Division and there is a large fleet of satellites that study the earth.

Other nations also launch and operate these satellites and sometimes they are joint ventures like the recent IceSat 2 which is France/USA.

The first dedicated earth observing satellite was TOPEX/Poseidon which measured sea level and ocean topography and was launched in 1992. It was replaced first with Jason 1, then Jason 2, then Jason 3 in 2016.

Also back in those days congress passed the legislation(1990) which was the basis of the global warming study released Friday. Also back in those days the US ratified the UN Global Warming treaty(1992).

41 posted on 11/25/2018 4:02:56 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: RFEngineer

“That was when they gave up on space in favor of pretend accomplishments.”

Most rockets that could launch a satellite cost under $100 million. The Saturn V was only $100 million or so, itself.

The lousy Shuttle program cost over $1 billion per launch. There was zero savings as promised by the Shuttle program.

The Shuttle was a total pretend accomplishment.


42 posted on 11/25/2018 4:06:00 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: steve86

Uninhabitable.


43 posted on 11/25/2018 4:09:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the DemocRats are all cats.)
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To: Nifster

“NACA/NASA used to be primarily made up of engineers and support folks”

There has been a vast influx of bean counters into the industry. Engineers who know how to design a schedule but can not perform to it.

The industry supply chain is drying up; not enough money to be made supplying space qualified parts. We have lost the edge.


44 posted on 11/25/2018 4:15:26 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: steve86

There is practically no oxygen, atmosphere, or water. It’s extremely cold and there is no magnetic field to keep off cosmic rays. And that’s only the beginning.


45 posted on 11/25/2018 4:15:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the DemocRats are all cats.)
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To: DFG

NASA problem in a nutshell!

https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/nasas-new-mission-and-the-cult-of-management-155873900/

And it’s truelove all government funded technical efforts!


46 posted on 11/25/2018 4:27:47 PM PST by Reily
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To: DFG

47 posted on 11/25/2018 4:28:20 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: DFG

I worked with them some in the late 1980s. They were no great shakes back then either.


48 posted on 11/25/2018 4:28:37 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: CodeToad

To me, some of the greatest accomplishments of Yesteryear’s NASA was the bringing together of brilliant minds that devised and streamlined the various error-correcting digital communications links that made receiving clear artifact-free images from deep space using impossibly small signal strengths over billions of miles possible. The Golay Code and Mariner 9 mission comes to mind. Cell phone technology exploded with a technique called Viterbi decoding first used on space probes; the developer going off to start a little company called Qualcom for example.


49 posted on 11/25/2018 4:33:10 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There is practically no oxygen, atmosphere, or water. It’s extremely cold and there is no magnetic field to keep off cosmic rays. And that’s only the beginning.

That is NOT the beginning.

The beginning is... the astronauts would be dead before they got to Mars due to radiation.

50 posted on 11/25/2018 4:33:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Are you sure because it sounds to me like an violent invasion.


51 posted on 11/25/2018 4:34:34 PM PST by Crucial
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To: SpaceBar

“Viterbi decoding first used on space probes;”

Actually, convolution decoding predated Viterbi. His algorithm was perhaps one of the most popular. I used a Viterbi decoder on a space system designed in 1968. I’ve used other convolution decoders dating before that.


52 posted on 11/25/2018 4:38:37 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: CodeToad

Of course convolutional coding predated the decoder.


53 posted on 11/25/2018 4:42:31 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: DFG
Physicist Richard Feynman's "Appendix F" addition to the Rogers Commission Report on the 1986 Challenger disaster describes how NASA's management hugely underestimated the risks of launching. The science said, "Don't launch in this cold weather." NASA management chose to ignore the science. That choice killed the astronauts.

Appendix F:

https://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt

54 posted on 11/25/2018 4:43:31 PM PST by TChad
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To: DFG

NASA shouldn’t send people to Mars (yet) and it has nothing at all to do with this muslim BS.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/06/tuesdays-intriguing-people-18/?hpt=T2


55 posted on 11/25/2018 4:45:16 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: NobleFree

Calypso Louie’s mothership....


56 posted on 11/25/2018 5:10:20 PM PST by gundog
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To: Dawggie

They used to make those parts in house


57 posted on 11/25/2018 5:13:30 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; morphing libertarian

I had to backtrack. I thought you were talking about morphing libertarian’s colon.


58 posted on 11/25/2018 5:15:52 PM PST by gundog
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To: DFG

July 29, 1958.


59 posted on 11/25/2018 5:25:18 PM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

#45 and no resorts to go fishing and boating.


60 posted on 11/25/2018 5:27:04 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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