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Gov. Jerry Brown signs law that aims to get all CA electricity from clean sources
ABC7 ^ | Sept. 10, 2018 | AP

Posted on 09/10/2018 12:42:23 PM PDT by Innovative

Brown, who has positioned California as a global leader in the effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, approved the measure as he prepares to host a summit in San Francisco of climate change leaders from around the world later this week.

The renewable energy measure would require California's utilities to generate 60 percent of their energy come from wind, solar and other specific renewable sources by 2030. That's 10 percent higher than the current mandate.

The goal would then be to use only carbon-free sources to generate electricity by 2045. It's merely a goal, with no mandate or penalty for falling short.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc7.com ...


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To: Innovative

California (ratepayers) will buy up the West’s hydropower and other Westerners (including Las Vegas and Phoenix refugees forced out of California) will get their electricity via natural gas.


41 posted on 09/10/2018 1:58:42 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ikeon

Have you heard of common sense?

Some things are just obvious to any sane person.

This whole “clean energy “ business was invented by some, who want to destroy the US, by destroying its energy supply.


42 posted on 09/10/2018 2:03:38 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
It's merely a goal, with no mandate or penalty for falling short.

See, I didn't know that. THAT will definitely work.

43 posted on 09/10/2018 2:11:40 PM PDT by mykroar (Congratulations President Trump)
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To: Innovative

Why only 60%?


44 posted on 09/10/2018 2:13:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Among other sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station


45 posted on 09/10/2018 2:15:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Ikeon
For May 2018 electricity California generated (in GWH):
Petroleum-Fired 6
Natural Gas-Fired 4515
Coal-Fired 24
Nuclear 1683
Hydroelectric 3134
Nonhydroelectric Renewables 5963

Looks like people don't know much about California weather, lots of predictable sunshine especially in the deserts. Data: https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CA There are many caveats though, the main one is that they still need direct heating and transportation fuels that will be more difficult to do with alternatives. Not enough energy density compared to fossil.

46 posted on 09/10/2018 2:16:37 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Innovative

He should hire the homeless at $15 an hour plus bennies to go out and cut deadfall if the forests for fire wood to be hauled into the homeless encampments to help them through the winter.

That would reduce the fuel load in the forests and reduce the forest fires. Plus give the homeless heat and something to cook with.


47 posted on 09/10/2018 2:18:38 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: beethovenfan

This is a joke. An expensive joke, but a joke none the less. Power gets pumped into the grid from Coal, LNG, Hydro, Wind, Solar,..... The electrons don’t know where they come from. There is X percentage of each, so CA can SAY they are only buying the clean energy and then smugly point at other states and say “see, they buy dirty energy”. But the fact is that CA uses just as much dirty or clean energy as everyone else. But hey, they feel good and that is all that matters.


48 posted on 09/10/2018 2:23:59 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: editor-surveyor

“Where will the other 18 hours of power come from?”

They pull there power from the grid. The grid is fed from many sources, coal, hydro, nuke, LNG, wind, solar. It all is combined. There is no way they can actually get X% of clean energy unless they separate from the grid. So they can say they are buying clean energy, but it is just saying they will pay extra to say they are only buying the clean percentage. Just feel good BS, which is perfect for CA. Suckers.


49 posted on 09/10/2018 2:28:31 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: Innovative; All
Thank you for referencing that article Innovative. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Can anybody explain why this thread seems to be indicating that California hasn’t reached its solar energy goals yet, while the thread below seems to be indicating that California has more solar energy than it knows what to do with?

"In fact, the California is generating so much solar energy that it is resorting to paying other states to take the excess electricity in order to prevent overloading power lines.”—California is embarrassing the rest of the country with the amount of solar energy it's producing, 22 June 17.

50 posted on 09/10/2018 2:28:37 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: MPJackal
CA uses just as much dirty or clean energy as everyone else.

When the sun goes down or clouds roll in, or the wind stops blowing then CA has to buy the dirty oldd grid electrons.

51 posted on 09/10/2018 2:28:59 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: redcatcherb412

They always buy the dirty electrons. They buy a lot from the Northwest. Now the northwest has about 30% hydro, plus LNG, Coal, Wind, Nuke. But a chunk is “dirty”. The CA proclamation is just BS PC garbage. We as a nation are trying to move to cleaner energy, but what CA did does nothing to speed that process.


52 posted on 09/10/2018 2:33:01 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: Innovative
Moonbeam, please give me a complete list of your 'clean' sources.

53 posted on 09/10/2018 2:33:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: conservative98

Building the future?

Snort.

More like following NYS down the same ‘Rat hole.


54 posted on 09/10/2018 2:34:59 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Innovative
That was Germany's plan, too. Now they're hooked on Russian gas.

Wealth is, at its most fundamental level, measured by how much energy you can command. The more energy you have access to the richer you are, individually, as a business, as a society.

This effort, by a toxic union of billionaire rentseekers and totalitarian marxists, to make energy less available, less reliable, and more expensive is at a level of societal insanity comparable to that which overwhelmed the Xhosa in 1856 when the prophetess of doom, Nongqawuse, convinced them that salvation lay in destroying all their cattle and crops. It did not turn out well for them then. It will not turn out well now.

Turning our backs on cheap, plentiful energy from any source is just as bad a move.

55 posted on 09/10/2018 2:55:51 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: Innovative

Gov. Jerry Brownout


56 posted on 09/10/2018 3:01:16 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Innovative

Smart move. It’s not like they need air-conditioning or anything.


57 posted on 09/10/2018 3:03:32 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Innovative
Fine. Do not sell CA any electricity across state lines that violates this silly principal. Wind and solar only. No hydro power since that upsets the dam breaching fish lovers.
58 posted on 09/10/2018 3:17:35 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: palmer
Water is important. Electric power drives the water pumps.

Do you have a pie chart showing the percentage of power supplied by that set of resources? That would be a more useful way to show the current CA dependence on fossil fuels.

59 posted on 09/10/2018 3:26:17 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Innovative

Just call me ‘Jerry Brownout.


60 posted on 09/10/2018 3:26:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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