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"Civil Disturbance" Declared After Portland Riot Cops Use Flash Grenades On Antifa - PICTURE THREAD
Portland Police ^ | Aug 4, 2018 | Tyler Durdan

Posted on 08/04/2018 5:12:46 PM PDT by Jack Black

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To: Jim Noble

So you say “pinhead” and expect the entire evolution of liberalism towards fascism to disappear. We are underwhelmed:

No its not silly, historically speaking today’s liberal fascists have a direct evolutionary connection to fascist movements out of previous history.

That’s why you can take history courses which study fascism.

One of the leading professors who teach the history of Fascism is Professor Emeritus Gilbert Allardyce. I am one of his honor students, having studied with him.

https://www.amazon.com/Fascism-European-History-Gilbert-Allardyce/dp/0136764290/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1533524523&sr=1-3&keywords=Gilbert+Allardyce

Fascism has two essential ingredients: Nationalism and Socialism.

In the liberal fascist form currently accosting America, the nationalism is one involving an alleged superiority of racial and ethnic minorities over the majority white population.

The Socialist aspect is revealed by a governmental approach which caters to racial and ethnic minorities, applying to them a different set of laws and government resources dedicated only to them.

You can see this evolution in Obama and his movement, which is well described here:

Barrack Obama: The Quintessential Liberal Fascist

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

Yes , my man, the Deep State and the Obama left are indeed liberal fascists of the first water. Dinesh D’Souza does a very accurate job in tracing the history in his book and movie “ Death of a Nation.”

https://www.dineshdsouza.com/


81 posted on 08/05/2018 8:11:20 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
A critical response to your professor: a response to Gilbert Allardyce/
82 posted on 08/05/2018 11:21:25 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: VietVet
You are wrong, I did answer but I realize now you don't want any answers and were just wasting time.

If racists show up and are allowed to be in a conservative protest they de-legitimize the entire protest and I don't need 100 words to say so.

You want to pretend they were just using the Confederate flag as part of history. Pretty sneaky and wow, what a tortured last sentence. It should be used on terrorists instead of water-boarding!
83 posted on 08/06/2018 3:42:09 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: \/\/ayne

Most likely, this person is Antifa using psyops to discredit the MAGA demonstrators. After all, the Stars and Bars are not official anything and are only meant to send a photo op message. To whom you ask?


84 posted on 08/06/2018 3:48:35 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton
Most likely, this person is Antifa using psyops to discredit the MAGA demonstrators. After all, the Stars and Bars are not official anything and are only meant to send a photo op message.

Could be, if so - mission accomplished.
85 posted on 08/06/2018 3:56:04 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: \/\/ayne

I see it is imposable to continue a polite, informed discussion with you on this matter. You merely keep repeating your premise [”If racists show up and are allowed to be in a conservative protest, they de-legitimize the entire protest...”]. Since this is exactly the argument that Antifa, the Anarchists, and the other anti-free speech organizations and individuals use to slander the free speech demonstrators and conservatives in general, I can only assume that you buy into that argument. Which by the same logic, implies that you agree, to some degree, with their other positions, including the proposition that it is acceptable to use violence to silence those with whom they disagree. I urge you to reconsider; don’t let the Leftists define the terms of the conflict!

“...what a tortured last sentence.”

Yes it was a bit convoluted, wasn’t it. Sorry. I wanted to say precisely what I meant, which made the qualifications kind of complicated.

“It should be used on terrorists instead of water - boarding.”

IMO, terrorists and the Left do find logic and reason torturously painful, and facts and truth worse than water - boarding. It pains me more than you know to find that is also true of some of the persons who are, or claim to be, on our side.


86 posted on 08/06/2018 11:04:04 AM PDT by VietVet
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To: VietVet

Indeed, you have said nothing to dissuade me from the obvious facts I see and your assumptions about me are incorrect. So we’ll have to agree that in our own minds, the other person simply cannot understand the facts.


87 posted on 08/06/2018 11:42:12 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: marktwain
Oregon is one of the few states that does not recognize concealed carry permits from any other state.

There arew a couple of ways around that. This is one of them.

88 posted on 08/10/2018 9:51:40 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
Nice “shields” in that first pic. Won’t protect them from guns though.

Made from half a plastic 40 or 55-gallon drum, as often used for trash barrels, sliced in half on the long axis, and then spray-painted black.

Most likely they won't stop an arrow from a hunting bow, or possibly even a bolt from one of the handy little 50# pull pistol-format crossbows available for under $25 or so. And bows are nearly silent.


89 posted on 08/10/2018 9:59:48 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: NFHale
The hell with flash grenades.

Use frags next time. Problem solved.

Take a flash-bang *distraction device* and wrap it with corrugated cardboard kept in place with a strip of duct tape or rubber bands. Use cardboard with corrugations large enough to insert small-headed finishing nails inside, then add another wrap of tape at the ends to keep the nails from coming out of their slots. If necessary, use two such nail wrappers, one at the top and the other at the bottom, in the event full-length nails aren't immediately available.

Nothing wrong with using frags, especially to get to the rear ranks where the commissars/leaders are usually situated. But my own plan is to wait until the ones with the molotov cocktails start pulling them out of their backpacks and sidebags, and toss an M34 white phos grenade or signal flare their way.

90 posted on 08/10/2018 10:25:14 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: Jim Noble
But I'm too old and not a good enough shot beyond 100 yards to know.

Your shooting should not be precise fire at individuals, unless you have enough advance intelligence to identify leaders and key personnel on sight. All you need is area fire against the mob as a mass, the better to scatter the group and let those of it wonder if they'll be next to receive a *to whom it may concern* notice, special delivery.

It's not likely that you'll encounter such an attack at random. But if you do, and if you do set them to running, don't stick around to see if they've stumbled into a kill box set up by those better prepared or with better local knowledge of terrain and cover than you, and maybe with enough lead time to have set up some Claymore surprises for their visitors. Just get out, and don't catch a cold on your way out.

91 posted on 08/10/2018 10:33:39 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: \/\/ayne
Pretty sneaky and wow, what a tortured last sentence. It should be used on terrorists instead of water-boarding!

It's not waterboarding if you use Diesel fuel.

92 posted on 08/10/2018 10:35:19 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: archy

Re: photo

Finishing nails? Well yeah, maybe, if you classify by purpose. But those are framing nails...not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Just sayin’


93 posted on 08/10/2018 10:42:43 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor
Finishing nails? Well yeah, maybe, if you classify by purpose. But those are framing nails...not that there’s anything wrong with that. Just sayin’

You are quite correct. That's a pic of an IRA *nailie bomb* built to much cruder specifications than what I'd like. They made use of what was available, preferably untracable, as fit their clandestine circumstances.

Either will work, if it's all you've got.

94 posted on 08/10/2018 11:46:17 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: archy

That would indeed get their attention.... :^)


95 posted on 08/10/2018 2:00:39 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: archy

Flash bangs don’t have enough explosive “oomph” to be used as a frag.


96 posted on 08/10/2018 2:05:22 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
Flash bangs don’t have enough explosive “oomph” to be used as a frag.

Somebody's using the wrong flashbangs. Easy to fix, a couple of different ways. even the Army/MP issue M84 will work with a little ['bout a quarter-pound] of Bullseye double-base powder added- the M84's charge is mainly magnesium. Or, instead of nails, use an incendiary gel; best served hot!

The Brit G60s work just fine with a nail *jacket* on, but my all-time fave is the old MK3A2- one-pounder, used by the Navy as a sort of mini-depth charge to discourage scuba divers.


97 posted on 08/17/2018 10:12:37 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: Jim Noble

Agreed antics ain’t fascist technically but since schools don’t teach kids these days just what socialism & the various flavors it comes in and that is done on purpose.I wouldn’t be so hard on him,At least he understands that these assholes are totalitarian control freaks who would gladly support Trump voters/Republicans being stood at the edge of a freshly dug pit &shot in the back of the head.Now if we can only get the idiots of the GOPe to understand this concept we might start to make some progress!


98 posted on 08/20/2018 6:20:01 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & Subversion)
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To: Jim Noble

Antics is of the totalitarian wing of the political that would not have any problem of having those who disagree with them taking up space in an open mass grave .The bozo’s just don’t know how to fight & republicans have been indoctrinated to be passive. Case in point the mass assassination attempt last year of Congressional Republicans . Nancy Pelosi told Speaker Ryan that Republican were getting what they deserved for obstructing Democrats & speaker Ryan didn’t have the wits or the fighting spirit to ask Pelosi if she would like to have a two way shooting range? Instead he just stood there with a deer in the head lights look on his face


99 posted on 08/20/2018 6:37:57 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & Subversion)
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