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Parkland survivors, families file federal lawsuit alleging their civil rights violated
The Hill ^ | 07/11/18 | Emily Birnbaum

Posted on 07/11/2018 2:55:10 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

They are going to lose this lawsuit.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

This goes to a point I try to make in 2nd Amendment arguments, that “the public are the police”. The “uniformed police” are just a convenience, to do things the public finds difficult to do, either in the short or long term.

The purpose of the uniformed police is to:

1) Act as agents for the courts, and deliver those wanted by the courts to the courts, holding them before, during and after court hearings until released.

2) To collect and collate evidence of crimes, and doggedly pursue and detain criminal suspects and performing arrest and search with warrants.

3) To provide this evidence and testimony to prosecutors to secure criminal indictments before grand juries, and subsequently to criminal juries.

4) To act as a day and night watch.

5) To perform crowd and traffic control as well as to subdue riot.


21 posted on 07/11/2018 3:18:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: crz

“You all note that this sheriff, along with the chief LEO in the Giffords shooting got out and started yapping as soon they could find a microphone.”

That would have been sheriff Dupnik or Dupek as I like to call him.


22 posted on 07/11/2018 3:23:36 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: yesthatjallen

They violated their own civil rights by failing to protect themselves.

If a capable person refuses to defend themselves, why should I or anyone else defend them?


23 posted on 07/11/2018 3:25:27 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: backwoods-engineer

“They need to get a clue. The Supreme Court has said multiple times that the police have no duty to protect any particular individual. “

Except for their own sorry asses. They are so special don’t you know.


24 posted on 07/11/2018 3:25:48 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: yesthatjallen

I thought the courts decided years ago that the police have no obligation to protect you, they are there to investigate crimes.


25 posted on 07/11/2018 3:30:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: crz

Yep, I wonder if Hogg and his sicko buddies set the shooter up.


26 posted on 07/11/2018 3:31:58 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

“The Supreme Court has said multiple times that the police have no duty to protect any particular individual”

That gives police license not to do do jack...especially if it involves danger to themselves. Just let the public take care of business and stick to sitting radar in speed traps. That would save a lot of innocent people and dog lives as a bonus.


27 posted on 07/11/2018 3:33:34 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: yesthatjallen

I think the police will lose this lawsuit because the police were there at an active shooting and failed to act. Stood outside and allowed a live shooter to have his way.


28 posted on 07/11/2018 3:35:32 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: Bonemaker

Not really, the police have no duty to protect people from a situation. If police are called and they allow a crime to continue to happen by doing nothing, they could be culpable.

Maybe?


29 posted on 07/11/2018 3:38:14 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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”… school and county officials violated students’ constitutional rights [??? emphasis added] when they did not adequately safeguard Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, ..."

Nothing that I’m still under the impression that local security officials were wrongly told to step down in MSDHS tragedy, there’s a problem with arguing that local officials violated students’ constitutional rights imo.

More specifically, the Supreme Court has clarified that there is no constitutional right to police protection.

The Castle Rock v. Gonzales decision argues that individual citizens don’t have a constitutional right to police protection.

In other words, the Founding States made the 2nd Amendment so that individual citizens could police themselves.

Corrections, insights welcome.

30 posted on 07/11/2018 3:48:44 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: yesthatjallen

Yeah, Baby. Finally scrutiny where it belongs.


31 posted on 07/11/2018 4:07:16 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Moderates/Independents/Non-voters" Are DIMS REALLY who you'd want BACK in POWER?)
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.....the suit's 15 plaintiffs were students in school on the day of the shooting.....
defendants include Broward County, the massacre's locale; school superintendent Runcie;
and four individual members of local law enforcement.......

Nice going........I hope the settlement is huge. Discovery should include questions WRT:

<><> can Runcie account for the $53 million tax dollars showered on Broward for keeping criminal minorities off the arrest roles?

<><> why is Runcie sitting on a $900 million school bond issue that was passed by the Broward resident suckers?

Runcie hand-picked by Obama out of Chicago.....named Superintendent of The Year.
Pockets about half a million dollars per year for overseeing the massacre.

32 posted on 07/11/2018 4:12:36 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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...with a group of survivors launching multi-million-dollar gun control advocacy group March for Our Lives.

Where did they come up with multi-million dollars?

33 posted on 07/11/2018 4:20:06 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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Runcie was well-paid to bring down the numbers and alter the so-called school-to-prison pipeline.....as a result of
the half-baked "Promise program" championed by Obummer (his cockamamie way to get more minorities into Princeton Yale and Harvard).

The Promise----The school board instituted a program called Promise which made not reporting criminal behavior a standard policy. Police said they did not have discretion in arrests, according to the President of the Sheriff’s union. The Promise [Preventing Recidivism through Opportunities, Mentoring, Interventions, Support, and Education] program kept Nikolas Cruz from getting arrested. Not having a record allowed him to buy guns.

The program began in 2012 as a way of dealing with the district recording the highest number of school-related arrests statewide (over 1,000). Superintendent Runcie, with strong connections to Obama, was expected to stop the alleged school-to-prison pipeline.

The program was geared towards keeping minorities out of prison. The killer’s name was Cruz, making him a minority. An agreement was drawn up with police and community organizations like the NAACP which kept kids out of jail based on race but didn’t necessarily deal with the issues they had.

Principals, instead of school resource officers [sheriffs], became the primary decision makers in responding to student misbehavior. Misdemeanors were supposed to be overlooked but records suggest more serious crimes were ignored to keep the money flowing. The district had to continually show improvement in statistics. There is no question the serious threats by Cruz to shoot up the school were reported to the sheriff’s office and he ignored them. Nothing was reported and nothing was ever done. This was the school/police policy.

$53 Million in Grants---With a cooperative judge and the Superintendent Runcie's crony ’s connections to the Obama administration, arrests were down 66% within one year of Runcie’s arrival. Grant money started flowing into the school district. The school district initially received over $53 million in grants to facilitate “improved life for students in poverty/students of color.”

The Last Refuge has been investigating this for years and uncovered documentation making a very convincing case for the entire program being corrupted by funds and statistics. The extent of killer Nikolas Cruz’s disciplinary problems was summarized by the Sun-Sentinel and the Miami-Herald. In addition to a slew of disabilities, Cruz had been out of control for years. As a New York educator for more than 30 years, I can tell you that long before Cruz blew completely, he would have been in a residential school.

One of the program’s participants, Juvenile Court judge Elijah Williams, speaking at a 2013 signing ceremony for PROMISE, focused on the statistics. “We are waiting for our numbers to come in,” he told the audience.

Elijah Williams said, “We already bought the ticket. We are waiting for our numbers to come in. We know we have hit the jackpot when our school-related arrests go down, down down.”

Promise of Detroit----- A caller into Rush Limbaugh Monday discussed the Promise program in the Detroit City schools. As an educator, I believe him.

Research provided by Herb Richmond.

34 posted on 07/11/2018 4:21:12 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: yesthatjallen

This is EXACTLY what happens when New Yorkers move to the South.

No one owe’s you your stupid little life!


35 posted on 07/11/2018 4:26:41 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: fruser1
RUNCIE/OBAMA CRONYISM AND THE BROWARD A MASSACRE:

Obama blanketed Broward with $53 Million in Federal
Tax Dollar/Grants for keeping criminal minorities off arrest roles

By S.Noble, February 26, 2018

The story behind Broward's Nikolas Cruz and the shooting of 33 former classmates and staff is one of the repeated failures of the system from the FBI to the school to the sheriff’s office to social services. The massacre was very foreseeable but politics got in the way. Specifically, politics, funding of more than $53 million, and Chicago school discipline got in the way.

This Was Obama-Chicago Discipline----The Superintendent of Broward County Schools, Robert Runcie, came out of Chicago and the Duncan-Obama administration.

The Miami-Herald reported: In 2003, Arne Duncan, then head of the Chicago school district and later Secretary of Education under Barack Obama asked Runcie to oversee the district’s technology department. Runcie went on to serve in other administrative roles, including as chief of staff for the Board of Education, before becoming the Broward schools superintendent in 2011.

36 posted on 07/11/2018 4:28:11 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

https://www.broadcenter.org/alumni/directory/profile/robert-runcie/

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

Jesus H. Christ

I followed this story and totally missed this retarded communist Obama stooge sitting chock in the middle of this FUBAR, the communist media deflected any mention of Muncie.

VALJAR and the communist insurgent WH Obama is running told him to head for the tall grass, and this is the first time this SOB is getting national attention.

I’ll be dammed.


37 posted on 07/11/2018 4:30:14 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-GOD WITH US)
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To: yesthatjallen

Deep Pocket lawyers.It would be hard to exaggerate just how much I despise American lawyers...most of them at least.


38 posted on 07/11/2018 4:38:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Liz

“The battle for quality education is the social justice cause of our time.

If you believe that every child has the right to a quality education, then there is no more important work than providing the right leadership to dramatically transform public education in this country.

I have found my passion and purpose in life — to improve the human condition by giving every child an equal chance to excel and achieve happiness.

It all starts at the top with one of the most challenging and important jobs in America: the urban school superintendent.”

WOW

Broward is so URBAN!!


39 posted on 07/11/2018 4:43:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-GOD WITH US)
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To: Rome2000

The litigants’ lawyer knew right where to place a hellva lot of the blame for the massacre........right on Runcie’s shoulders.

Plus I would not be surprised if the lawyer knows Runcie’s sitting on hundreds of millions of tax dollars.....and will make his account for every dollar.


40 posted on 07/11/2018 4:48:23 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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