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15000 South African farmers may relocate to Russia
Cape Talk ^ | 7/10/18 | Barbara Friedman

Posted on 07/10/2018 8:34:34 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

Russia Today (RT) reports that a delegation of 30 South African farming families has arrived in Russia’s farm belt Stavropol Region with the group apparently saying it is facing violent attacks and death threats at home.

RT reports that according to the delegation, up to 15,000 farmers are planning to move to Russia. The group believes that government plans to expropriate their land will lead to increasing violence.

The report says that the farmers are prepared to contribute to Russia’s growing agricultural sector and each family is ready to bring up to $100,000 for leasing the land.

The report quotes “It's a matter of life and death — there are attacks on us. It's got to the point where the politicians are stirring up a wave of violence,” Adi Slebus told the media. "The climate here [in the Stavropol region] is temperate, and this land is created by God for farming. All this is very attractive.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: africa; immigration; russia; southafrica
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To: ek_hornbeck

In the United States mid-west corn belt, $100,000 would buy, maybe, 20 acres of tillable ground. That’s why.


61 posted on 07/10/2018 9:40:34 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: cherry
however, if we allow any immigration at all, why aren't we taking refugees with strong work ethics and knowledge?...why not them instead of allowing people with far different morals/education/language/religion???

Why either?

62 posted on 07/10/2018 9:42:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ek_hornbeck

>>True, but then Russia has a larger Muslim population (mostly from former Soviet Republics) than any European country and far larger than the US.

But what do ethnic Russian Christians say about the equivalence of Christianity and Islam? Our high level of post-modern thought is our suicide pact.


63 posted on 07/10/2018 9:43:19 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

In the United States mid-west corn belt, $100,000 would buy, maybe, 20 acres of tillable ground. That’s why.


64 posted on 07/10/2018 9:44:46 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ek_hornbeck

In the United States mid-west corn belt, $100,000 would buy, maybe, 20 acres of tillable ground. That’s why.


65 posted on 07/10/2018 9:44:53 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ek_hornbeck

In the United States mid-west corn belt, $100,000 would buy, maybe, 20 acres of tillable ground. That’s why.


66 posted on 07/10/2018 9:44:59 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ek_hornbeck

In the United States mid-west corn belt, $100,000 would buy, maybe, 20 acres of tillable ground. That’s why.


67 posted on 07/10/2018 9:45:09 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ek_hornbeck
RT reports that according to the delegation, up to 15,000 farmers are planning to move to Russia.

Then they are fools. There is no question that all South African farmers need to escape the developing hellhole that they used to call home. But Russia is not the solution.

South African farmers considering emigrating to Russia need to read its history, particularly that of the German-Russians. They also were invited into Russia as farmers, and it became a prison.

Find another place. One that values liberty and personal freedom.

68 posted on 07/10/2018 9:45:50 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: ek_hornbeck

“Russia has 43 million hectares of unused farmland, and has recently begun giving out free land to Russian citizens to cultivate farming. The land giveaway program, which began in 2014, has been a huge success.” from: https://www.rt.com/business/432375-russia-south-africa-farmers/

There is no other place on earth which can absorb 15,000 productive farmers. However, $100,000 is way short for equipment.

All land was owned by the state under the Soviet Union. There were no “Farmers”, Stalin killed them all off, all agriculture was collective farms. When the Soviet Union went belly up, private ownership became an option and now about 7% of agriculture is done that way. This 7% accounts for nearly 50% of the agriculture production. Russia became the worlds largest exporter of wheat in 2017. Don’t know how this year’s crop is doing.


69 posted on 07/10/2018 9:50:37 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: WKUHilltopper

And so it begins. 15,000 will be a trickle compared to the flood that will start when this happens. Whites have seen the handwriting on the wall and will flee South Africa en mass and the headlong decent back to the stone age will begin in earnest for the “indigenous population”.


70 posted on 07/10/2018 9:50:57 AM PDT by Desron13 (Inside every progressive is a petty tyrant straining to break free.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

This is good news actually. It means SA will descend to miserable, impoverished and starving third world status, precisely where it belongs!


71 posted on 07/10/2018 10:12:39 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: DakotaGator

Find another place. One that values liberty and personal freedom.


If you have access to a time machine, this is certainly possible. Otherwise, I think the best one can do is find places with a relatively high number of individuals who value these things. If you do have a time machine, I’d like to get in line to borrow it.

Sloth.


72 posted on 07/10/2018 10:14:36 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Hieronymus

I am an Expat South African who moved here in 78 and took citizenship as soon as I was eligible.

What you don’t know is how virulently anti US their media is.

They have been propagandized to be anti US.

That and a 100K here can maybe get you a hobby farm but nothing on a commercial scale.


73 posted on 07/10/2018 10:19:07 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: ek_hornbeck

South Africa is/was a truly a first world nation. Zimbabwe wasn’t. When South Africa crashes and it will it will be dramatic!


74 posted on 07/10/2018 10:19:10 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

There is much that I don’t know—and posts like yours can help a little bit.

Has the media always been anti-U.S. or has there been a shift at some point in the last five decades?

I do think that the price of farmland would be decisive, if other factors are remotely equal. The 20 acre figure posted multiple times up thread seems a deal breaker to me.


75 posted on 07/10/2018 10:23:50 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Hieronymus

The whole world was a huge propaganda program against SA 5 decades ago but the Boer still admired the USA. When Mandela came to power affirmative action on steroids was implemented.

Most media hires since then have been black communist ANC members. They are jealous of the US. They hate the white man and his accomplishments.


76 posted on 07/10/2018 10:35:52 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

That is roughly what I expected. I imagine that the Boer was hopeful about Reagan, and would perceive a decline in the U.S. since then.


77 posted on 07/10/2018 10:42:37 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: dfwgator
"One of South Africa’s neighbors, I think it’s Zambia, has actually been encouraging white farmers to move there."

Yes. Many have already moved there.

I don't think that is a good idea though. Africa's Black population is exploding and I've read the 400 million will need to migrate elsewhere (Europe) or starve. White farmes will get the short end of that deal, again.

78 posted on 07/10/2018 10:53:40 AM PDT by blam
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To: DoodleDawg

Because where I live the farmers said they need more farmers, and that is why we should be taking the hard workers in.


79 posted on 07/10/2018 10:56:18 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: henkster

Yes, they’re exactly like locusts — swarming insects in human form.


80 posted on 07/10/2018 11:03:40 AM PDT by Blurb2350
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