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Cruz's flip-flop on family separation shows threat to GOP
mysa ^ | June 19, 2018 | Will Weissert

Posted on 06/19/2018 1:40:20 PM PDT by bgill

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To: Qwackertoo

“I miss the old Free Republic of years gone by.”

No doubt about that.

Honest discussion of Freedom or Republican forms of government are pretty rare here now. I’m sticking with my analogy regarding the haters here and the media.

Who needs reason anymore? When volume and mindless repetition feel so good.


61 posted on 06/19/2018 3:56:01 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: bgill
Hmmm, gotta laugh when the "Beto backing" newspapers claim Cruz is flip-flopping.

He said his bill would double the number of federal immigration judges to ensure that asylum cases are heard within two weeks."

Note that these people requesting asylum are usually just turned FREE in America because the process can take YEARS and we can't keep them detained that long....aka Catch and Release.

"If the claim is not valid, and many of those coming here illegally don't have valid claims for asylum, then within 14 days that claim should be processed and they should be returned to their home country," Cruz said. "During that expedited process, we can and should keep families together, keep children with their moms and dads and we need to stand up temporary shelters."

Could he be talking about President Trump's reported Tent Cities?

Sounds pretty good to me. Hold 'em, process 'em and kick them out.......in 14 days.

We'll see if his final bill reflects these comments.

62 posted on 06/19/2018 3:56:02 PM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: bgill

There are many kids who are accompanied by adults, but there is absolutely NO way to know IF those are the actual parents.


63 posted on 06/19/2018 3:58:40 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 11th_VA
Ted is calling their bluff

Yeah, but don't expect any haters to appreciate that fact. They would rather provide awesome talking points for the fake Hispanic, Beto O'Rourke, than believe Cruz is anything other than Satan.

64 posted on 06/19/2018 4:06:13 PM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Very disappointed with Sen. Cruz. Our republic is being invaded on our southern border and I expect him and all patriots to STOP IT!!

Unlike many here, I will not damn Cruz for betraying his base until I see evidence of it by reading the bill that hasn't even been released yet. And I'm sure not going to take a liberal leaning newspaper's word for it that he's flip flopping.

66 posted on 06/19/2018 4:21:34 PM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: Mariner
I say it again, your kind doesn’t belong here

Me neither.

Everyone should reconsider their opinions on this. Tonight I heard on NPR that children are actually forced to wait in line for their food: "like a prison"! And children who were accompanied (by coyotes or parents) are now being mixed with children were formally known as: "unaccompanied minors" so that now their all being called "unaccompanied". </breathless voice >

67 posted on 06/19/2018 4:23:28 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: BuddhaBrown
FR in large part has become a gaggle of superficially reactive folks.

When did all that happen?

68 posted on 06/19/2018 4:39:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MNDude

Don’t forget the Teddy Bears.


69 posted on 06/19/2018 5:07:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Mariner
"Look asshole..."

Pricks and stones, my close-minded little friend.

"...your kind doesn’t belong here... conflate yourself with with the Cruz campaign... Universally, Freepers will agree."

I pray you can throttle the hate, just a little, to see how silly that last part sounds. Quite obviously it is wrong. I certainly don't agree with you, that right there means it is NOT universal. And there are others, in this very thread, which support the Cruz bill. Hyperbole is a poor excuse for reason.

You have an uncanny, media-like ability to project as you reject.

So... let me get this straight. Trump and I should be pulling for the Dem running against Cruz? Explain to me again how that would help your so-called 'united political front on the right'. Which exists apparently only in your mind.

Trump doesn't like the current situation any more than anyone else, he's begging Congress to fix it. Cruz offers a pretty damn good fix, really. What is your enlightened fix to the fix?

I don't give a crap if Juan McCain authored the bill, it's a decent plan. Reasonable people on Trump's side would call that 'winning, bigly!'

70 posted on 06/19/2018 5:26:53 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: 11th_VA

Thanks for looking at the facts of the issue instead of sticking your head up your ass as to many here are prone to do.


71 posted on 06/19/2018 5:29:03 PM PDT by heshtesh
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To: dragnet2

“When did all that happen? “

August 14th, 2012. Noonish. Central time.


72 posted on 06/19/2018 5:40:09 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: heshtesh

I praised Linsey Graham yesterday, so I guess I can say something nice about Ted today .... Honestly, all this reminds me of the movie Braveheart; when all the clans couldn’t get together to fight the English - how’d that turn out ????


73 posted on 06/19/2018 6:00:40 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: bgill

The lefties in Congress and the media hate the Cruz proposal. So, it might be pretty good. I’ve read his talking points and they seem ok.


74 posted on 06/19/2018 7:18:35 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Reno89519

Quit labeling me a “Never Trumper,” jerk. I fully support what our President is doing, and am grateful for all he has done for our nation. You’re a complete ass.


75 posted on 06/20/2018 6:24:58 AM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: bgill

Fredo back in action.


76 posted on 06/20/2018 8:39:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: bgill

This whole thing is ended by a new law... this is the right path...

Point out repeatedly, you are enforcing the law that has been the law for over 20 years, and you have new laws being put forward but Dems refuse to work with you on them.

After the initial knee jerk outrage fades, You just keep pounding the other side for obstruction...

The problem has been with the Right for at least a generation, is they cave immediately at the first sign of knee jerkism... Trump keeps winning because he doesn’t just cave.

Hugh Hewitt is a perfect example of the old Republican way... He’s demanding Trump back off from the get go... Instead of recognizing no one wants to separate families, but thats the law... you fix it by CHANGING THE LAW.. not ignoring it.

Yes, some of the people Trump has put on the speaking tour are idiots, the womp womp comment by whatever doofus that was will just stoke the fire more..but the general message, to end it MAKE A NEW LAW... period. Just keep hammering this message, we are enforcing the law, if you don’t like the law work with Republicans to change it... period.

DON’T BACK DOWN. Cruz’s law, depending on whats in it..can now be directly sighted as see we have a new law to stop this, and you refuse to vote for it....


77 posted on 06/20/2018 8:45:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Theo

Be nice. Besides, if you are supporting Never Trumper Lyn’ Ted and proposals like his that undermine Trump, the US, Republicans, and the American people, then well, yes, you are a Never Trumper. You cannot be an honest Trump supporter and at the same time support Lyn’ Ted.


78 posted on 06/20/2018 9:01:19 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: bgill

when a parent is charged/convicted of breaking the law, do we send the children the the lockup/prison/penitentiary with them so we don’t separate them?

I thought not.

Class dismissed


79 posted on 06/20/2018 5:39:01 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer ("The past does not have to define the future")
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To: bgill

All illegals coming in through a NON port of entry will be shot on sight. That includes ages 1 month through 101 years.

Period.dot.
And yes I was a LEGAL alien who became a naturalized citizen. I resent all these invaders getting a free pass by the DEMONrats.


80 posted on 06/21/2018 10:07:54 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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