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Leading Republicans Join Democrats in Pushing Trump to Halt Family Separations
NY Times ^ | June 17, 2018 | Peter Baker

Posted on 06/17/2018 8:14:00 PM PDT by Innovative

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To: Innovative

gobbels would be proud these pandering rep lawmakers. pure manipulation of the soft-hearted.


61 posted on 06/17/2018 9:40:17 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: JustSurrounded; plain talk

the Dems are leading us around in circles on this topic.

Back in 1997, The Flores Agreement set the time that unaccompanied children could be held (later also applied to families, which gave those who dragged a kid with them preferential treatment over single adults). HHS, in normal times, might be able to background check and screen sponsors for unaccompanied children in a short time, but with an influx of over a quarter of a million border jumpers dragging children with them, the logistics has become an enormous challenge.

An attempt was made during the Zero administration to set up family immigration shelters so that children weren’t separated from parents (mostly mothers; fathers seem to be in short supply). Remember all the stories of hotels and such being rented for centers? Guess what happened? According to the NYT:

” Opening a large family immigration detention facility in Dilley, Tex., he held a news conference to showcase what he called an “effective deterrent.”
The steps led to just the kind of brutal images that Mr. Obama’s advisers feared: hundreds of young children, many dirty and some in tears, who were being held with their families in makeshift detention facilities.
Immigrant advocacy groups denounced the policy...Before long, the Obama administration would face legal challenges, and be forced to stop detaining families indefinitely. “

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-trump-came-to-enforce-a-policy-of-separating-migrant-families/ar-AAyJeyn?ocid=spartanntp

So we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t. The moral of the story is, the children should immediately be returned to their home country as wards of that country to be placed with extended family there. IF the parent(s) manage to get asylum, then they should be able to legally go back and legally get their kids. For the majority that don’t get asylum, their kids are back home with grandma and grandpa, (or daddy or mommy, depending on who dragged them over the border) waiting for them.

Figures: Unaccompanied Alien Children placed with sponsors per year:
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/resource/unaccompanied-alien-children-released-to-sponsors-by-state

laws: Flores Agreement in 1997, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 and its reauthorization acts, the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (TVPRA) of 2005 and 2008.

https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/programs/ucs


62 posted on 06/17/2018 10:30:37 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Innovative

Never Trump bushes are getting desperate, laura is their last shot. They are sinking into obscurity, their remaining supporters are democrats. The bush scam is done.


63 posted on 06/17/2018 10:31:15 PM PDT by robel
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To: artichokegrower

“Laura Bush’s husband separated some 5,000 American servicemen from their families in Iraq and another 2,200 in Afghanistan.”

You mean permanently separated by death.

There were MILLIONS who entered war zones. And, no, they did not take their children with them into combat.


64 posted on 06/17/2018 10:38:34 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: unlearner

She separated Mike Douglas from his family when she ran that red light.


65 posted on 06/17/2018 10:39:09 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Innovative

How about we enforce immigration laws?


66 posted on 06/17/2018 10:54:20 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Innovative

It needs to be remembered at all times that this is choreographed concern. The dems don’t give a shit about children or anyone else for that matter.


67 posted on 06/17/2018 11:33:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Sarah Barracuda

And still.. no wall.


68 posted on 06/18/2018 1:14:23 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018)
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To: chris37

After next election I will no longer vote Republican. I’m done with the two party system.


69 posted on 06/18/2018 1:44:34 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: plain talk

I am beyond sick of it. Tired of our “leaders” worrying themselves with, and the media yapping to us about, this issue year after year after year. Life is too short for this BS.


70 posted on 06/18/2018 1:47:22 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: coaster123

Confession time, when Dems used to talk about W coming across a smirking ignorant (fill in blank) I low key agreed with them. I liked how he represented right after 911 but that’s the only time I actually did.


71 posted on 06/18/2018 1:52:45 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Captain Peter Blood

At this point they are so incompetent I say we should demand a special emergency vote and we the people decide what shall be done regarding the matter. After all, it is US that have to live with the consequences either way.


72 posted on 06/18/2018 1:55:49 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Innovative

When they lobby for American parents to not be separated for their children after they commit crimes, then I’ll actually consider them to be sincere, rather than vote-buying scum.


73 posted on 06/18/2018 1:57:39 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: artichokegrower

Goodpoint. But hey, I guess we don’t really matter. We’re just regular Americans not the sainted Hispanic/Latino wanna-be Americans who will vote as directed.


74 posted on 06/18/2018 2:00:17 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Innovative

Hope the “Trump can stop it all if he really wants to” idiots start paying attention to what Trump has to work with....Trump ain’t the problem.


75 posted on 06/18/2018 3:14:32 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: Lurker

I believe I read that she was a George McGovern supporter in 1972. I guess she switched “Georges” on us.


76 posted on 06/18/2018 4:05:54 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: dadfly

The “soft-hearted” are really hard-core totalitarians who want to wipe out freedom.


77 posted on 06/18/2018 4:08:05 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Lurker

“When exactly did Laura Bush become a leading member of the Republican Party?”

You know, I was asking the exact same thing!


78 posted on 06/18/2018 4:20:27 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Innovative

Put the children in prison too.


79 posted on 06/18/2018 4:21:31 AM PDT by anton
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To: CottonBall

Exactly. I guess I just don’t understand what is happening. Are the kids showing up alone and crossing? Are the parents going to the border and making them cross? I honestly don’t see how kids are just materializing on our side of the border and now they are ours. And once they are here, what is expected, just turn them loose, on their own?


80 posted on 06/18/2018 4:38:22 AM PDT by Toespi
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