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1 posted on 06/16/2018 10:47:39 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

“Court reinstates California law allowing terminally ill people to end their lives”

How about the terminally democrat?


2 posted on 06/16/2018 10:50:49 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Simon Green
(Excerpts from Msgr. Charles Pope)

Legalized assisted suicide grants medical professionals, death-dealing authority; this in turn results in irreparable damage to the doctor-patient relationship. Introducing death as a medical treatment option that can be offered by health care professionals transforms a trusted profession that has been solely dedicated to healing for millennia. It is because of this dedication to healing that doctors have enjoyed such respect and trust from their patients and society as a whole. The idea that government can give death-dealing power to certain individuals means that they can also enforce and regulate it. With an already broken healthcare system plagued with a spending problem, it is not difficult to imagine that assisted suicide will be an easy “fix” to our spending problem and legitimate treatment options will be refused.


In an attempt to limit who “qualifies” for assisted suicide, the legislation states that an individual must have been given a prognosis of six months or less left to live. All doctors who deal with terminal illnesses on a regular basis will tell you that these prognoses are an educated guess at best. It is dangerous and irresponsible to allow patients who have received such a prognosis (and who may be disoriented and vulnerable) to make lethal decisions based upon a “guess.”


Legalized assisted suicide will likely lead to poorer healthcare and increased pressure on the sick, the elderly, the disabled, and the traumatically injured. Those who advocate for the physically and mentally disabled have good reason to fear that pressure will be applied to euthanize the disabled and those who have been in traumatic accidents. As the concept of “a life not worth living” grows, and as the idea gains traction that disability (even milder forms) is a fate worse than death, those who struggle with disability may well be easy targets for those who advise suicide. Some may feel pressured to no longer be a “burden.” Many will have the sense of their dignity being lessened.

Granting individuals the right to end their life ultimately threatens us all because it implicitly denies the dignity of the dying. Failing to understand this dignity will lead to poorer care and will increase pressure on the elderly and dying to end their lives prematurely so that they are no longer a burden.


In other words, the “right to die” too easily becomes the “duty to die.” What begins sociologically through pressure not to be a burden, soon enough becomes economically necessary because insurance benefits may vanish. And one can’t ignore the possibility of eventual legal pressure. The experience in the Netherlands is particularly sobering.

3 posted on 06/16/2018 10:55:19 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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BUT...they’d better not shoot themselves with one of those evil, EVIL guns to end their misery! *SMIRK*


4 posted on 06/16/2018 10:57:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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I’m okay with this. As long as the individual decides and not the doctors. I watched my great grandfather take a whole year to die in pain while my grandmother and my grand aunts and aunts prayed to keep him alive. For what? Life on a respirator or in an iron lung? We all have our time in this realm and we need to move on to the next realm. There is one :-). There are many.


5 posted on 06/16/2018 10:59:56 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: Simon Green
This ruling provides some relief to California patients . . .

Killing yourself in California is now called "relief."

8 posted on 06/16/2018 11:06:36 AM PDT by madprof98
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Now, if we can just get these judges to take advantage of the new privilege.


11 posted on 06/16/2018 11:12:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Simon Green

My life belongs to ME. It doesn’t belong to the church, the state, the courts or the legislature.

I don’t need their permission.


17 posted on 06/16/2018 11:28:58 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Simon Green

While I am personally opposed to Dr.-assisted suicide, I am wondering how this comports with the new “Right To Try Executive Order just promulgated by President Trump. Is opting to die, a legitimate “right to try” issue?


18 posted on 06/16/2018 11:32:56 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Simon Green

Doc: “I’m afraid you have only six months to live.”

Patient: “OMG, can I do anything about it?”

Doc: “Yes, you can move to California and move into a commune with Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi and Jerry Brown.”

Patient: “So this is supposed to make me live longer?”

Doc: “No, but it will be the six longest months of your life.”


21 posted on 06/16/2018 12:08:40 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (We have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.)
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To: Simon Green
The The Hippocratic Oath lasted 2500 years, pretty much intact. Now, black-robed tyrants are asserting that refusing to kill patients is unconstitutional, and the Oath is dead. It's sad.

I swear by Apollo the Healer, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture . . . Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion.

22 posted on 06/16/2018 12:15:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Simon Green

At first the patient has the option to decide and as sure as the sun sets, the State will eventually decide.


27 posted on 06/16/2018 12:47:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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I hope it applies to elected officials


33 posted on 06/16/2018 1:12:50 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Horse heads work!)
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To: Simon Green

Paging Pelosi

Paging Finstein

Paging Boxer

They are ready for you in the Happy Room.


40 posted on 06/16/2018 5:47:45 PM PDT by elbook
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