With lack of incentives, few Americans are giving up their bump stocks

Christian Science Monitor ^ | 05/21/18 | Matt Vasilogambros

[Simon Green]

Under New Jersey’s new bump-stock ban, which was approved in January, residents were supposed to destroy or turn in their bump stocks by mid-April.

So far, New Jersey State Police say, they have not received a single one.

Months after a man used a bump stock to quickly mow down 58 people in Las Vegas, seven states now prohibit the sale and possession of the devices, which enable semiautomatic rifles to fire at the rate of fully automatic fire. Bans of bump stocks in Hawaii and Connecticut are currently awaiting governors’ signatures, and lawmakers in Delaware and Rhode Island are expected to approve bans soon.

Even though proposed bump-stock bans have stalled in more than a dozen states, gun control advocates who want to rid the country of the accessory are celebrating their existing statehouse victories. They agree with gun owners and police, however, that enforcing the bans will be a challenge.

It’s hard to know for sure, but Americans could own as many as 520,000 bump stocks, according to estimates from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Many of the devices are untraceable, in part because they don’t have serial numbers.

New Jersey is not the only state having trouble enforcing its ban. In Massachusetts, where residents had until February to surrender their bump stocks, State Police received just three devices. The Bay State’s ban, which passed in November, is a felony.

The first reported violation of the bump-stock ban in Massachusetts occurred in March, when police arrested a couple after discovering an arsenal of weapons in their hotel room. The bump-stock charge was one of more than three dozen gun charges in that case.

Bump-stock bans in Florida, Maryland, Vermont, and Washington have been approved but have not yet gone into effect.

[papertyger]

Bump stocks are not capable of matching the audio from the Vegas Shooting.

WHAT! You're not willing to support the governments phoney baloney cover story of what happened in Vegas?

FOR SHAyME!

[mylife]

Funny thing, the C96, Churchill loved them in the ME, Arabs loved them too but it was Chinese warlords that figured them out in the Boxer rebellion.

Guns are just tools

[familyop]

"A semi automatic can fire at the rate of fully automatic fire with no bump stock at all."

At least 700 rounds per minute as compared to an M-16? That's pretty fast. A fully automatic AR-15, with the lighter carrier, etc., should go closer to 900 rounds per minute.

I don't care much for auto fire, though. Once you get the rise tamed, it still tends to walk around quite a bit. Seems best used with short bursts and point firing, something like a shotgun. Slightly longer bursts maybe for the extremely rare occasion of being attacked by several in very thick cover or a grazing sweep (low) for clearing a room. Not much chance of either of the two situations, even if helping to fight off a foreign invasion against us (re. not much jungle terrain here, and cities being mostly spread out suburbs).

I fired many rounds from M-16s. The time in training seemed better spent on semi-auto. Hitting multiple targets at various distances can get pretty fast after a few years.

IMO, the best time spent in training were the hundreds of hours spent simply carrying the rifle while pointing it and firing with blanks or saying, "Bang, bang!" The pointing gets quite a bit more accurate and much faster in time.

[piytar]

Yup.

[mylife]

AKs walk all over.

[dynachrome]

“poke someone in the next county..”

Don’t ask why there is a hole in my ceiling tile

[mylife]

Bottom line is this dickhead in Tx used a pump action shotgun and a revolver, so tell me again how banning bumpstocks helps.

Murder is already against the law.

[dynachrome]

The broomhandle is cool, but awkward without the stock.

[The Toll]

AK47’s were unwieldy. They fixed that 44 years ago though.

[mylife]

Or a scratch in the ceiling fan blade!

[mylife]

Agreed

[mylife]

well, 1974 was a start.

[chris37]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIC8SMttjjo&t=17s

9mm ar-15 in this video.

It pretty much speaks for itself.

[Cobra64]

Does ANYONE know anyone with a bump stock?

[Cobra64]

Yup. “There is a lawyer behind every bullet.”

[Lurker]

“I have a Mosin Nagant from 1897.”

I’ve got a hex receiver 1932 Tusla. Came with that spike bayonet. You could roast a small pig with that thing.

L

[CapnJack]

Next they'll be telling me to turn in "Old Painless"!

Ain't happening.

[Crucial]

Wow. That is awesome.

[trebb]

Yep - that’s my take on them....folks get them, waste a bit of ammo and either set them aside, give them away or trash them...

[joma89]

Time for civil disobedience. We should not follow these unconstitutional laws, period.

JoMa