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Pope's reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality
LA Times ^ | 21 May 2018 | By TOM KINGTON

Posted on 05/21/2018 7:35:39 AM PDT by mandaladon

Pope Francis has reportedly told a gay man that "God made you that way and loves you as you are," apparently pushing the pontiff's acceptance of homosexuality to a new level.

Francis made the comments to Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean victim of priestly sexual abuse who recently spent days with the pope at the Vatican to discuss his ordeal as the pontiff moves to tackle decades of coverups and ostracism of victims in the Chilean church, according to the Spanish newspaper El Pais.

Cruz was quoted as having discussed his homosexuality with Francis. "He told me: 'Juan Carlos, I don't care about you being gay. God made you that way and loves you as you are and I don't mind. The pope loves you as you are, you have to be happy with who you are.' "

A spokesman at the Vatican on Sunday declined to confirm or deny Francis' comments, stating, "We don't normally comment on the pope's private conversations."

In 2013, Francis famously said, "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with goodwill, who am I to judge?" when asked for his views on homosexuality, signaling a sea change in Catholic views on sexual orientation.

That year he also told an interviewer, "A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality," adding, "I replied with another question: 'Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' "

His reported remarks based on Cruz's account go further, however, by suggesting he believes people are created gay by God — a position likely to anger Catholic conservatives.

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To: Biggirl
I am simply standing up to the bashing.

What...by constantly crying about it?

121 posted on 05/21/2018 1:37:12 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: mandaladon

Pope Francis believes that God loves rapists and murderers because He made them that way.


122 posted on 05/21/2018 1:58:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: ealgeone

No.

And I am not crying about it either.

Just speaking out.


123 posted on 05/21/2018 2:29:12 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Don’t get me wrong. I have very grave concerns about the present Pope, but I trust that the Lord will set things straight once again.


124 posted on 05/21/2018 2:32:37 PM PDT by tjd1454 (L))
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To: tjd1454

Same here.

I worry about how this Pope is leading, but I have confidence that this too will pass with God’s help.


125 posted on 05/21/2018 2:39:07 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mandaladon

Never mind what the Bible says, right ?


126 posted on 05/21/2018 2:50:12 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: tjd1454
Thank you, good non-Catholic Christian friend, for your goodwill and for the justice of your comments.

It's inspiring and refreshing.

127 posted on 05/21/2018 3:24:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("O Lord, teach us to give and not to count the cost." - Ignatius of Loyola, SJ)
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To: mandaladon

I don’t much care for what the “Pope” says:

IT IS NOT OK TO BE “GAY!”

Homosexuality is a perversion!


128 posted on 05/21/2018 6:24:47 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: mandaladon
Pope's reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality

Yeah, he's just another faggot-loving baby-killer.

129 posted on 05/21/2018 8:45:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: mandaladon

[[Next thing he’ll approve of will be pedophilia ? ]]

When they do nothing to stop them and just shift them and pawn them off an another unsuspecting church they are approving of it.


130 posted on 05/21/2018 9:34:49 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: IrishBrigade

[[‘This is the fruit of doing so.’

and you explain the gaiety in the Protestant churches exactly how...?]]

They same problem because they don’t believe the bible and they have wolves in the pulpits teaching lies contrary to what the bible says.


131 posted on 05/21/2018 9:37:54 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: ealgeone

Yep. Infiltration has been going on for centuries, just like in Protestant churches. Anglican Church was founded on divorce and beheading and ejecting the pope. The Catholic Canon was pretty strong up until VI. VII was the Freemason/Luciferean/Jesuit takeover of the Church. They watered-down curricula in Catholic schools and seminaries by the 50s and completely destroyed it by the 70s.

Bella Dodd, a communist, documented embedding thousands of homosexual Marxists into the seminaries in the 30s and 40s and she said she was not the only one doing it. The Marxists (sodomites) took over the Vatican Bank before VII so they could bribe everyone and literally kill the pope who wouldn’t do their bidding— Pope John Paul I.

Fr. Oko’s report on Homoheresy details the homomafia who got control of the seminaries to drive out the good men as do many books like “Good Bye, Good Men. The sodomites form mafias to take over institutions, as they did in our public schools, so they could embed their worldview (satanism) into our children and instill “Pride” in sodomy-—to flip 2000 years of Ethics back to the pederastic, slave days of Greeks and Romans.

For the NWO, Christianity has to be erased as the “God is Dead” Lucifereans/freemasons decided in Germany in 1800s. Only Christianity made slavery, homosexuality, and pederasty into “Evil” which is common in all slave (dehumanizing) cultures.

For Happy Slavery (the NWO), using others in vile, evil, irrational ways has to be normalized “in the children” and virtue in children has to be destroyed since vice creates slaves.


132 posted on 05/21/2018 10:06:33 PM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Biggirl
Thank you for your forgiveness. Jesus said if you love Him you will DO His commandments. Emphasis mine. He said not to worship idols. Do you have statues in your house or yard? He said He is the only Mediator between God and man. Do you pray to Mary or other dead people? He said forbidding to marry is a doctrine of demons. Need I say more?

What I said in post 98 is all truth. The RCC won't even bother to read it. It's like that controversy over hearing Yanny or Laurel. All you hear is Catholic bashing and I call it truth. If you can't admit the pope is a joke after saying sodomy is OK because you are born that way, what else will you believe because some pope or cardinal says so. Read what Scriptures say about sodomy and then tell me the pope is right. How far are you willing to dive before you pull the ripcord? If you can't bring yourself to admit the RCC is on the wrong track, then you either haven't read the Bible or you don't understand it.

How do you read Jesus is the only Mediator and then pray to Mary? How can you read not to pray to idols and then pray to a statue of someone or something? If the shroud of Turin was real, so what? Worship the deity that was in it, not the shroud itself. Catholics have finger bones and hanks of hair and all sorts of other so called relics that they parade around and fall down worshiping. Daniel wouldn't bow to a statue, why would you? Almost everything about the RCC came from paganism. There is very little left that resembles the church Jesus started. Revelation tells everyone that they will be left behind to meet the Beast if they don't repent and you see nothing to repent for. It's difficult to see how you can say they read their Bibles. It's very simple, there is a relationship between people and Jesus and the other is religion that is based on Babylon. The Babylonian religion is based on getting to heaven without God, by mans works. The first act of religion was in the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve covered themselves with fig leaves. You can't cover your sins. Your Priest can't cover your sins. Repeating prayers dozens of times doesn't do it. All of this is covered in Scripture. If you think being Catholic will get you there, you are mistaken. You must be born again. That has nothing to do with taking classes. It would take hours of typing to explain how confused the RCC is to the aims of God's church.

133 posted on 05/21/2018 10:49:19 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Be careful not to bring in Jewish practices that have no place in the new covenant.


134 posted on 05/22/2018 3:23:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: chuckles

Right now I have lost patience in full with this present Pope.

At the same time What I have read in your posting is that what you have adopted makes you reject the new covenant given to us by the risen Jesus. Grace is what saves us.


135 posted on 05/22/2018 3:37:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: smaller letter “w” for “what”.


136 posted on 05/22/2018 3:39:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: chuckles

It is such practices, the Jewish practices, which Paul not only rebuked Peter on but also warned the Galatians, in his letter to on.


137 posted on 05/22/2018 4:06:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mandaladon

Although I’m not Catholic, I think I’m going to start eating Fish on Fridays, just to be safe...


138 posted on 05/22/2018 4:08:19 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: chuckles

You have fallen for the Jewish practices and have for all purposes rejected the new covenant. Plus you have posted A LOT OF ERRORS. I refuse to fall to these errors.


139 posted on 05/22/2018 4:17:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mandaladon
Pope's reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality

Oh?

By Whom?


 

A BIBLICAL Message to LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

140 posted on 05/22/2018 4:37:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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