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Supreme Court rules for defendant in capital murder plea case
National Constitution Center via Yahoo ^ | May 14th, 2018 | Scott Bomboy

Posted on 05/14/2018 1:27:47 PM PDT by Mariner

On Monday, a divided Supreme Court said a court in a Louisiana murder case couldn’t accept a lawyer’s admission of his own client’s guilt over his client’s objections.

In McCoy v. Louisiana, the Court considered a basic question about the proper role of attorneys in murder cases. Robert McCoy originally filed his own appeal directly to the Supreme Court about two questions related to his conviction on three murder charges. McCoy was sentenced to death in the case.

McCoy was accused of killing three people in 2008 in a dispute with his then-wife and he was arrested after fleeing to Idaho. McCoy clashed with public defenders, briefly represented himself, and then hired an attorney, Larry English, to argue his case.

The client and his attorney disagreed about McCoy’s defense strategy, and English told the court he had doubts about McCoy’s competency due to “severe mental and emotional issues. During trial, English introduced a defense that conceded McCoy’s role in the killings as a tactic to avoid the death penalty, by stressing McCoy’s mental condition. Under testimony, McCoy insisted he wasn’t guilty and he was the victim of a conspiracy. The jury found McCoy guilty of three first-degree murder counts. The jury then recommended the death penalty.

In the 6-3 decision, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that the trial court should not have accepted English’s concession of guilt for his client.

“Larry English was placed in a difficult position; he had an unruly client and faced a strong government case. He reasonably thought the objective of his representation should be avoidance of the death penalty,” Ginsburg said. “But McCoy insistently maintained: ‘I did not murder my family.’ Once he communicated that to court and counsel, strenuously objecting to English’s proposed strategy, a concession of guilt should have been off the table.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
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To: House Atreides

“Since English didn’t really admit McCoy’s guilt in trial court.”

In his opening statement he said his client killed them.


21 posted on 05/14/2018 3:20:04 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Mariner

“It PAINS me to say it, but I think Ginsberg was right on this one. “

just seems like plain ol’ common sense that an accused’s lawyer can’t declare him guilty to the court when the accused declares to the court that his plea is not guilty ...


22 posted on 05/14/2018 4:13:21 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: catnipman

“just seems like plain ol’ common sense that an accused’s lawyer can’t declare him guilty to the court when the accused declares to the court that his plea is not guilty ...”

Sometimes research over-rides plain ol’ common sense. The dude was playing the system right and left. This was just one.


The record clearly reveals the defendant’s awareness of Mr. English’s trial strategy, to avoid the death penalty by conceding guilt and seeking a life sentence, some eight months prior to July 12, 2011.22 Thus, the trial judge did not abuse his discretion by denying the motion to discharge and replace retained counsel two days before trial. This assignment of error is without merit.


23 posted on 05/14/2018 5:26:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Red Badger

A little education for you ....

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/la-supreme-court/1752872.html


24 posted on 05/14/2018 5:27:57 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Mariner

“It PAINS me to say it, but I think Ginsberg was right on this one.”

It pains me that you would post that based on one article which is not only lacking in perspective but has several errors.


25 posted on 05/14/2018 5:30:07 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Mariner

Agreed


26 posted on 05/14/2018 5:31:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (Reward for young runaway goes by Kanye fancies hisself a poet...if seen contact his overseer@DNC.org)
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To: wardaddy

Obviously you are lacking a proper background on the facts of this case ...


27 posted on 05/14/2018 5:38:47 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

Please edify us with another source so that...we don’t have to feel so filthy.


28 posted on 05/14/2018 5:44:03 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: TexasGator
I am good with the chair.

For both of them.

29 posted on 05/14/2018 5:47:10 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Mariner

Let him know it’s right under his Abel Reyna authored “Theories on Gang activities - Prosecution techniques and Best practices”.


30 posted on 05/14/2018 5:52:12 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Mariner

Check my postings.


31 posted on 05/14/2018 5:52:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Ouderkirk

Both? Ginsberg?


32 posted on 05/14/2018 5:53:23 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: VRWCarea51

It seems you are rising against me and siding with liberals and murderers?


33 posted on 05/14/2018 5:55:40 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

Wait a minute TG, it was you who over a year was supporting the Sniper Cops and Abel Reyna

I don’t support ANY criminal whether they are gang movers, wear a badge or sit in a Prosecutors office!


34 posted on 05/14/2018 6:03:38 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Founding Father

From what you write, it would seem that that his trial was a travesty, but I don’t know how to reconcile what you write with the dissent’s claim that English didn’t really admit McCoy’s guilt in trial court.


35 posted on 05/14/2018 6:03:53 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Mariner
I agree.

And now I feel the need to take a shower.

36 posted on 05/14/2018 6:05:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: dangus

The statement in the article doesn’t accurately reflect the facts.


37 posted on 05/14/2018 6:09:33 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“And now I feel the need to take a shower. “

After your shower do some research which would be enlightening on this dude that was playing the system.


38 posted on 05/14/2018 6:13:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: dangus

“From what you write, it would seem that that his trial was a travesty,”

Sometimes things are not as they seem.


39 posted on 05/14/2018 6:15:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: VRWCarea51

Hmmm.,, trolling and thread hijacking...


40 posted on 05/14/2018 6:17:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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