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To: Nifster
The secret source is Carter Page, who worked for the FBI in 2014 and 2015.

Revealing his name would reveal that the application to the FISA court was not only dubious in light of the unverified nature of the Clinton-Putin dossier, but was, in fact, an outright fraud since he was the target of the 701 surveillance request.

Carter knows this, which is why he's doing pro se representation of his case, and why he appears on news programs shooting his mouth off with complete impunity: he knows perfectly well that if the DOJ ever comes after him seriously he can put an end to the careers of everybody on the 7th floor and several judges on the FISC.

6 posted on 05/10/2018 11:06:34 AM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

Makes complete sense to me. But why would Trump agree to withhold this info? Is this part of the 007 Top Secret, Super Duper Plan to unseal 1.3 Trillion Indictments and put millions of people in Gitmo? /s


8 posted on 05/10/2018 11:13:03 AM PDT by DrDude (Where's the Storm? Its not even raining yet!)
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To: FredZarguna

Could it be Sessions? Would explain everything.


10 posted on 05/10/2018 11:13:52 AM PDT by robert14
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To: FredZarguna

Not Page, only was with the campaign only about a month.
It’s Jeff Sessions, sure would explain he in-actions.


12 posted on 05/10/2018 11:15:59 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: FredZarguna

702


18 posted on 05/10/2018 11:29:24 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: FredZarguna

How do you know it’s Carter Page?


31 posted on 05/10/2018 11:35:46 AM PDT by Proud White Trump Supporter
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To: FredZarguna

This is dubious because Mueller has been running his smear and financial ruin scheme on Carter Page.

Not to mention it would be ludicrous for the FBI to obtain and then renew FISA requests on their own source - right? I mean they would have to reveal this relationship to the judge - right? Plus Page was essentially inserted close to Trump’s campaign by recommendation of Christopher Cox ( Nixon’s son-in-law) so who was playing who in that pyramid?


33 posted on 05/10/2018 11:36:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: FredZarguna; Nifster; navysealdad

“The secret source is Carter Page”

Apparently, the “small group” cabal in the FBI sent Carter Page to the Trump campaign as a setup. Page’s background in Russia, and former contacts with known Russian intelligence operatives, could be used to meet the threshold needed to get a surveillance warrant on him - and therefor two hops out from him (anyone who communicated with anyone who communicated with Page). They likely had Page email key people within the campaign, just to justify their spying on them.

The whole thing was a setup from the very beginning. The purpose was to fix the election - either by discovering some dirt, or by illegally spying on the opposing campaign every day, like Watergate on steroids.

The Mueller investigation, if nothing else, has (corruptly) given Democratic operatives unprecedented forensic detail into every aspect of the Trump campaign, so the Democrats can tailor their attacks during future campaigns - and identify significant Trump supporters for systematic intimidation or destruction.

The FBI and DOJ, like so much of the rest of the Federal Government, was corrupted to partisan political benefit during the Obama Administration.

They are evil, and need to be punished, if we are to preserve rule of law in the USA.


34 posted on 05/10/2018 11:40:56 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: FredZarguna

There is an article in the WSJ Opinions page suggesting that the WaPo knows who it is already and it appears that this source has also talked to the WaPo. They also state that they THINK they know who it is but can’t confirm and won’t say until it is confirmed. However they also give some hints. Chief among them is Who would stand to gain by preventing this info from getting out? Obviously that’s not a hint if the answer is Carter Page.

They also suggest that this person has worked overseas. Also they say the outing would further provoke Republicans. It says that the WaPo reports on a White House-DOJ discussion that involved only a few individuals. They must be high level people.

Not sure who that could be. Possibly Lynch or Brennan. But I suspect it’s Hillary or John Kerry. Or in my wildest dreams Barack Obama.


38 posted on 05/10/2018 11:42:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: FredZarguna

Actually after re-reading the WSJ opinion piece I think you may be right that it’s Carter Page. Basically they used him to snoop on Trump but they got a warrant to watch him because they wanted to make sure what he told them was legit. That being the case it seems pretty clear that the GPS dossier account of his Russia visit was a fraud and the FBI knew it all along.


51 posted on 05/10/2018 11:57:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: FredZarguna
Makes sense.

soetoro's FBI puts Page into the Trump campaign to spy because they made up nonsense about Russian collusion.

How convenient.

53 posted on 05/10/2018 12:00:43 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: FredZarguna

Thinking it thru it’s the timing that is the problem. Page worked for the Trump campaign for a month, then a month or more later he made his trip to Russia. If the FBI was using him to conduct surveillance on Trump then that implies that Page was an FBI plant from the outset and that he was working for the FBI when he went to Russia. But the wiretap was not implemented until after the trip to Russia. I am not sure the timing makes any sense.

Maybe he became an FBI source only after the trip to Russia. In which case I don’t see the national security issue, nor do I see why they call him a “secret” source. I figured Page talked to Mueller already. Seems pretty obvious in fact. Maybe he’s already pled to something we don’t know about. But you wonder why it’s so important to keep it secret.


62 posted on 05/10/2018 12:39:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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