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You don't help American manufacturers by raising the prices they pay for steel and aluminum.
1 posted on 05/08/2018 6:05:53 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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You don’t help American steel and aluminum refiners by favoring their foreign competitors.


2 posted on 05/08/2018 6:08:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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You don't help American manufacturers by raising the prices they pay for steel and aluminum.

My dad used to work for AK Steel back when they were called Armco. AK now is the only U.S. maker of electrical steel, and foreign producers were dumping such, cutting into AK's production. If you think this country can function without domestic steel production if there ever is a major war again, you're as brain dead as the average Democrat.

Steel prices will drop over time as more U.S. capacity comes on-line. Sorry, but your free-trade hogwash no longer sells here.

3 posted on 05/08/2018 6:10:14 AM PDT by dirtboy
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This is a gut reaction to the problem and we should know not to believe the headlines/agenda of the media.

Everyone got surprised by the immediate increase in steel. It is the unexpected that bothers us.

Yes, folks it is going to cost us more for American Made but that is what we wanted. We complain about the cheap Chinese crap everyday.........................

So what are the choices?


4 posted on 05/08/2018 6:14:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Tariffs are not a zero sum event. What they give to some, they take from others, and seldom does the difference net to zero.


8 posted on 05/08/2018 6:26:40 AM PDT by Wuli
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As I've said many times here ... whether a tariff on steel is a good idea or a bad idea depends entirely on whether you're SELLING steel or BUYING it.

I'm actually a fan of tariffs, but imposing them on specific products or raw materials does nothing except pit different U.S. industries against each other.

9 posted on 05/08/2018 6:36:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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These are growing pains. We are weaning ourselves off of foreign steel and it's not without some inconvenience to us. But in time this will alleviate. And we will be all the more self-dependent.

In the long run, this will be worth it.

10 posted on 05/08/2018 6:38:56 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (Progressives are turning America into "Harrison Bergeron" if conceived by Ayn Rand.)
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Hahaha price of steel went up for foreign manufacturers as well.


11 posted on 05/08/2018 6:39:10 AM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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In the long run, which is how a conservative should look at things, we have to have fair trade. Getting raped is not ‘free trade’ amigo.

You are confusing good theory with crappy reality. Our trading partners have been bending us over for decades and not using KY. I used to work for Uncle Sam and used to write reports back on this very subject - and nothing was ever done. They cheat. And cheat. And cheat. Or in many cases, like China just piss right in our faces and we just stand there and lick it up.

And there is something else at stake here - which are industries critical to national defense. Those cannot be allowed to wither completely away.


13 posted on 05/08/2018 6:46:42 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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Sourcing Reuters, eh? I can only imagine that CNN, Yahoo!, MSNBC and WaPo heartily agree with them.


14 posted on 05/08/2018 6:47:35 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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But you DO help AMERICAN workers in places like Hawesville, Kentucky, or West Lafayette, IN as US companies gear up to meet the new demand.

Trump’s tariffs allow us to invest $100 million and hire hundreds: Century Aluminum CEO.

So your beer is going up 4 cents a case due to not using Chinese aluminum?? How much did the tax on beer go up over the last 20 years?


15 posted on 05/08/2018 6:48:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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You don’t help the American economy by allowing foreign nations to dump subsidized products in your nation.

The, sure wages are stagnated but you can buy a toaster for $5 argument is done... its a sham.

The systematic extraction of US Wealth to foreign players, while taking a cut for yourself, by traitorous fiscal and economic policies is done.


16 posted on 05/08/2018 6:49:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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The entire point is the US was the world’s largest steel producer, and; we won World War I and especially II because we could build tanks, aircraft, ships, etc. If we have a war with China we cannot build ships, planes, tanks, etc. WE MUST MAKE OUR OWN STEEL.


19 posted on 05/08/2018 6:53:51 AM PDT by Lumper20
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“You don’t help American manufacturers by raising the prices they pay for steel and aluminum.”

Steel and aluminum manufacturing are strategic resources. China’s heavily government subsidized metal industries have undercut US manufacture, resulting in far too little domestic metal production.

This is just adjusting things to favor America’s overall strategic interests. Businesses relying on artificially low metal prices will have to adjust their business plans.

President Trump has made this exact point regarding strategic steel production.


24 posted on 05/08/2018 7:04:36 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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“But Reuters interviews with more than a dozen small to mid-sized manufacturing executives and recent U.S. economic data reveal Trump’s protectionist trade policy is starting to lead some of them to take a more cautious approach, and forcing them to put new investment and hiring plans on hold.”

More than a dozen?
Seems to be inconsistent with the NFIB Small Business Optimism Index released this morning?

Sales expectations also gained ground, rising 1 point to a net 21 percent, as 59 percent of construction firms and 56 percent of manufacturing firms expected higher sales volumes in the coming months, encouraged by wage growth and solid consumer sentiment.

Capital expenditure plans also improved by 3 points to a net 29 percent, with current capital outlays driven by new equipment spending and the acquisition of vehicles, while plans call for increased spending on training and labor-saving technology.

56 percent of manufacturing firms expected higher sales volumes in the coming months, encouraged by wage growth and solid consumer sentiment.

http://mam.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=486090&cust=mam&year=2018&lid=0&prev=/byweek.asp#top


25 posted on 05/08/2018 7:08:21 AM PDT by Rock N Jones (1935)
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You again huh?


26 posted on 05/08/2018 7:22:09 AM PDT by mowowie
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“You don’t help American manufacturers by raising the prices they pay for steel and aluminum.”

You don’t help American manufacturers by allowing foreign nations to put up tariff walls, as they all do.


28 posted on 05/08/2018 7:35:34 AM PDT by odawg
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Rotten Reuters = globalist mouthpiece’s fake news.


29 posted on 05/08/2018 7:44:30 AM PDT by miniTAX (au)
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President Trump has an absolute genius understanding of how the economy works. He is aware of short term effects, but knows that it is better to think and plan for long term better results for America.

I couldn’t begin to understand anything at all wrt the economy, but I have learned to trust him in many areas, especially this area. (It’s also much less stressful!)


31 posted on 05/08/2018 7:50:28 AM PDT by Kalamata (bibleresearchtools.com)
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Yeah, we believe you Reuters....you’d never write “stories” slanted to advance an anti-American, globalist agenda. Would you?


33 posted on 05/08/2018 7:53:25 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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Prices are going up due to an increase in demand not the tariff. A strong economy makes things more expensive but also gives the economy more money to spend.

We saw an increase of over 100 percent on stainless steel shaft material in 4 months. That is not from the tariff.

36 posted on 05/08/2018 7:55:34 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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