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Connecticut To Give Its Electoral College Votes To National Popular Vote Victor
MSN ^ | 5-7-2018 | Dominique Mosbergen

Posted on 05/07/2018 2:19:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: siamesecats

This doesn’t require any change to the Constitution.

The Constitution reserved this power for the state legislatures.

From Article II:
“Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors...”

There is no Constitutional requirement to have a statewide vote for presidential candidates. There is for Representatives and Senators, but not for Presidents.


61 posted on 05/07/2018 3:39:57 PM PDT by sipow
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To: DarthVader

It is not unconstitutional.

Article II allows the state legislatures to select electors in whatever manner they wish.

There is no requirement that regular citizens be allowed to vote for the President at all.


62 posted on 05/07/2018 3:43:07 PM PDT by sipow
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To: tcrlaf

Good luck on the road to 270! Where else do they believe they can win?


63 posted on 05/07/2018 3:49:52 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: Lazamataz
"Since they are intending to base it on National Popular Vote, there is a chance THOSE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES WILL GO TO THE REPUBLICAN. There is no upside here. This is a great idea, FOR OUR SIDE."

I would agree except for Socialists (no longer call them Dims) cheat with dead, multiple, illegal, hanging chads, and lawsuits.

Always remember that the socialists took their Bush/Gore case to the Florida Supreme Court. They ruled in favor of Gore by changing the rules post election. The only reason Bush won was because the USSC said that Florida couldn't change their own laws without new legislation.

64 posted on 05/07/2018 3:52:36 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: tcrlaf

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Not constitutional!

Also not in accordance with the SCOTUS “one man, one vote” decision.

The states must count votes.
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65 posted on 05/07/2018 3:56:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Because on the road to 270 , they do not want to award their EV not Republican who gets the most votes nationally.

This looks like Chaos / corruption if nationwide the election margin averages a hand ful of votes per polling location or district. MN stole election for Franken. The idea of recounting the entire country is insane but what Dems thrive on.


66 posted on 05/07/2018 3:58:22 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: tcrlaf

The People of Connecticut are only harming themselves by getting involved with this crap.They just dealt themselves out of the deal.

They will be dependent on the larger States now for any political influence.


67 posted on 05/07/2018 3:58:48 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Political Junkie Too; Boogieman; sipow

The problem here is that while Article II gives states the right to choose electors, it does not allow them to violate Article IV, Clause I:

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,..”

This compact means that state electors would no longer represent their state, but the voters of the several states. That is clearly unconstitutional.


68 posted on 05/07/2018 3:58:56 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: tcrlaf

Interesting in looking at the popular vote and the elected
President very few won with a majority of over 50% of
the total votes cast.


69 posted on 05/07/2018 4:10:21 PM PDT by deport
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To: tcrlaf

They are all going to look pretty silly giving their electoral votes to Trump.


70 posted on 05/07/2018 4:17:24 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: editor-surveyor
Not constitutional! Also not in accordance with the SCOTUS “one man, one vote” decision. The states must count votes.

It is constitutional, provided the states decide to do it by themselves with the collusion of the compact. We do not vote for President, the Electoral College does that. The states don't count the votes. The Electors vote and the Federal Government count the votes. For decades, the general popular vote was known as the "beauty contest". Everyone knew that the real vote was by the electors and the states chose from two slates of Electors. Almost universally for the last 100 years or so, the states chose either the Democrat or Republic slate based on who won the popular vote.

71 posted on 05/07/2018 4:22:51 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: tcrlaf

This is the third thread today on this news item, perhaps more. Here is a comment that I made on the first thread that summarized the issues. You might want to pour a drink before you begin reading, it’s a little long.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3653269/posts?page=141#141


72 posted on 05/07/2018 4:28:34 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: tcrlaf
Yawn.

Only deep blue lefty states have passed this. When they get an actual red state, or a purple state like Florida, to sign up for this, wake me up, until this is just seems like leftist state legislature butthurt.

73 posted on 05/07/2018 4:33:18 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Political Junkie Too

We have a winner Bob, let’s show him the fine prizes that we have for him tonight.

FR has had long discussions on this scheme as states have joined the compact over the years. I recall that more Freepers understood what the states could do under the Constitution, but my memory might has been modified over the years. We are about 100 EV before the compact kicks in, it won’t happen.


74 posted on 05/07/2018 4:37:04 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: tcrlaf

There is not even any such thing as a “national popular vote” as these are just a combining of stats from completely different elections.

The legislature of this state has just undermined their role as a member of the Union.


75 posted on 05/07/2018 4:42:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: tcrlaf

Since when have Nutmeggers ever been right?


76 posted on 05/07/2018 4:46:41 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: tcrlaf

Doesn’t that disenfranchise the Connecticut voter.


77 posted on 05/07/2018 4:49:35 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: tcrlaf

Can this be challenged for violating the Constitution?


78 posted on 05/07/2018 4:55:44 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I believe you mean Article IV, Section 4.

That provision (the guarantee clause) ensures that each state be run as a representative democracy.

Since the state allows its people to elect the state legislators, this requirement is met. Those elected representatives are then allowed to choose electors as they see fit.

The Constitution requires that the states be run as representational democracies, and that the senate and house are elected by the people - but it does not have that requirement for the electoral college members.


79 posted on 05/07/2018 4:56:08 PM PDT by sipow
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To: siamesecats

My thought as well.


80 posted on 05/07/2018 4:56:14 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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