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Cops Save Rare Gun From Buyback Shredder (STG 44 Sturmgeweer)
Liveleak ^ | 5/7/18 | Liveleak

Posted on 05/07/2018 9:08:45 AM PDT by Rebelbase

Rare German STG 44 Sturmgeweer is saved by cops during a neighborhood buy-back program, just in time before it was to be destroyed.

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To: Little Ray
It it is hard to get ammo for it, anyway. Uses 7.92 Kurz IIRC. You don’t see that in the gun store!

Easy enough to find on the internet, though. $14.95 per box.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi-partizan/20-round-box-792x33-kurz-ammo-sale-124-grain-fmj-made-prvi-partizan-pp7k


21 posted on 05/07/2018 9:36:48 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: PGR88

The first scene in the video is enough to make any normal person cry. In addition to the STG there are a perfectly good M!A, worth about $1,100 and an AR, worth at least $600, neither of which would ever be used in a crime and each of which was probably turned in by some virtue signaling fool.


22 posted on 05/07/2018 9:38:23 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Rebelbase

Hmmm, some guns are better than others?


23 posted on 05/07/2018 9:38:30 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Rebelbase

I meant to say, some guns are more equal than others


24 posted on 05/07/2018 9:40:47 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: PGR88

My mother-in law showed me a German Luger that her husband, who was a foot soldier with Patton, brought back at the end of the war. It was a nice pistol, but looking at it I noticed that it was made by Sturm Ruger. Knowing that Ruger didn’t sell guns until the early ‘50s, I asked her if this gun had ever been out of her possession. “Well, yes” she replied, “When my husband died I took it to a local gun store to see if it was loaded, and they gave it back to me a few days later”. I didn’t say anything, but told my wife afterward about the theft.


25 posted on 05/07/2018 9:43:27 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Simon Green

“Nazi-marked Walther PPK “

I had a chance to get one back around 2003 or so for $500. Wish I had.


26 posted on 05/07/2018 9:43:35 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: PGR88
AT LEAST your colleague sold it to someone who appreciated its provenance, historical significance, and would keep and preserve it.

The German soldier who was surrendering to his father was quite meek until he noticed that he was being taken prisoner by a black guy. This offended him so much he turned around and started walking away.

He changed his mind and gave up when my coworker's dad fired a burst from his Grease Gun next to the guy's feet!

27 posted on 05/07/2018 9:44:24 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Rebelbase

28 posted on 05/07/2018 9:44:45 AM PDT by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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To: libstripper
If she gave it to me I’d go through all the troubloe it takes to get a Class III license just to be able to keep it.

It hasn't been legal to register a full auto that's "new" to the BATFE since 1986.

29 posted on 05/07/2018 9:46:08 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: READINABLUESTATE

$30 - $40K dollarss

That gun is worthless if it wasn’t registered prior to 1986 if I’m not mistaken.


30 posted on 05/07/2018 10:04:46 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

She was supposedly going to sell it to a museum. I would presume the firearm would have to be rendered inoperable by destroying the receiver. It certainly wouldn’t be worth $40,000 at that point. A few thousand dollars, perhaps.


31 posted on 05/07/2018 10:16:49 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Man from Oz

The thing that makes me sick in the pit of my stomach is how many more fine, collectible weapons are destroyed at the hands of these filthy politicians.Just like that filth Obama’s cash for clunkers took out many desirable cars. Makes me want to urp.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8lalB4NUIOULlcuktYtkLEgchEZndfqD


32 posted on 05/07/2018 10:18:09 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Simon Green

Pity to loose that in a boating accident.


33 posted on 05/07/2018 10:29:49 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Lurker

That’s correct. I knew a ATF agent who told me they had to confiscate a war trophy machine gun from an old vet. My friend was pretty upset about it. It was a historically significant firearm and they legally had no choice but to confiscate it.

He said they could either destroy it or put it in the private ATF Museum.

He wasn’t very happy about that.


34 posted on 05/07/2018 10:33:02 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Simon Green

“New’ means either newly manufactured or newly imported. That rifle was probably imported sometime between 1945 and 1950, making it legal even today, provided the owner goes through the horrible BATFE procedure.


35 posted on 05/07/2018 10:39:13 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
“New’ means either newly manufactured or newly imported. That rifle was probably imported sometime between 1945 and 1950, making it legal even today, provided the owner goes through the horrible BATFE procedure.

I don't believe that's correct. Just last year, a bill was introduced that would have allowed such full auto firearms to be legally registered.

http://www.guns.com/2017/06/28/bill-would-save-grandpas-unregistered-trophy-machine-gun/

Legislation introduced in both chambers of Congress on Monday would open an 180-day amnesty for veterans or their family to register guns captured overseas.

The bipartisan Veterans Heritage Firearms Act aims to allow former service members or their family to declare guns brought back to the states before Oct. 31, 1968, without fear of prosecution. Sponsors argue the bill will save historical artifacts that have become treasured, but legally risky, family heirlooms.

“Our World War II and Korean War Veterans risked their lives in foreign lands in defense of our freedoms,” said U.S. Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark, co-sponsor with Maine Independent Angus King, of S.1435. “These firearms represent the sacrifices they made in the name of duty and are often treasured keepsakes.”

The bill would briefly open the National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record to veterans and their family to register certain firearms.

(It didn't pass)

36 posted on 05/07/2018 10:51:49 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: raybbr

Sturmgeweer is the Dutch spelling, IIRC.

CC


37 posted on 05/07/2018 11:08:33 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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To: Simon Green

Privi partisan: for all of your obscure, rare European cartidges.

CC


38 posted on 05/07/2018 11:10:50 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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To: Simon Green
Thanks for your information. Wikipedia can sometimes be a very valuable resource in this area. Here's the relevant excerpt from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act:

Importation of NFA firearms was banned by the 1968 Gun Control Act which implemented a "sporting" clause. Only firearms judged by ATF to have feasible sporting applications can be imported for civilian use. Licensed manufacturers of NFA firearms may still, with the proper paperwork, import foreign NFA firearms for research and development purposes, or for government use.

The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment.[37] Machine guns legally registered prior to the date of enactment (i.e. May 1986) are still legal for possession by and transfer among civilians where permitted by state law. The static and relatively small number of transferable machine guns has caused their price to rise, often over $10,000, although transferable Mac-10 and Mac-11 submachine guns can still be purchased for around $5,500.[citation needed] Machine guns manufactured after the FOPA's enactment can be sold only to law enforcement and government agencies, exported, or held as inventory or "dealer samples" by licensed manufacturers and dealers. Machine guns made after 1986 for law enforcement but not transferable to civilian registration are usually priced only a few hundred dollars more than their semi-automatic counterparts, whereas a pre-Hughes Amendment registered machine gun that can be legally transferred commands a huge premium.

The Hughes Amendment affected only machine guns. All other NFA firearms are still legal for manufacture and registration by civilians under Form 1, and transfer of registration to civilians under Form 4 (though some states have their own laws governing which NFA firearms are legal to own there). Silencers and Short Barreled Rifles are generally the most popular NFA firearms among civilians, followed by Short Barrel Shotguns, Destructive Devices, and "Any Other Weapons". While most NFA firearms are bought from manufacturers and transferred to civilians through a dealer, many are made by the civilians themselves after filing a Form 1 and paying the $200 manufacturing tax. In some cases the manufacture is simple (i.e., using a pipe cutter to shorten a shotgun barrel), and sometimes quite complex.

So it turns out that "machine guns" legally registered before May of 1986 remain legal for civilian ownership, unless otherwise prohibited. That would mean either domestically manufactured and registered before May of 1986 or foreign manufactured weapons that were also so registered, whether by their businesses or individuals, like returning veterans. Unfortunately, a large number of returning vets did not register their souveniers and the law prevented such registration after May 1, 1986, making all of those great men involuntary criminals.

39 posted on 05/07/2018 12:22:03 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: PGR88
I wonder how often this happens at buybacks... wives, or children of vets who have no idea at all of what they have.

My grandmother's 2nd husband was an accountant, and often was tipped by his clients in alcohol. She didn't drink, and when he passed, she called our house and casually mentioned that she was tossing out his liquor cabinet. "Don't touch A THING!", Dad said, and he and I drove through the night to rescue it. Wound up with a carload. Wasn't much room in it for me to sit, as I recall.

Among other things, I pulled most of a case of 19th century Napoleon Brandy out of the trash. She'd tossed it because it was "old". Jeez, that was good. Don't know how to describe it, other than it kind of (pfffft) evaporated in your mouth, and just left a pleasant aftertaste.

Our family drank off that good fortune for years. Last of it went when I got married.

40 posted on 05/07/2018 12:25:27 PM PDT by wbill
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