Law enforcement officers are allowed to lie to you.
Whose problem is it if this law enforcement officer is wrong?
Is it his problem - or is it YOUR problem? 
Posted on 04/24/2018 8:16:01 AM PDT by ColdOne
On the other hand, I didn't have to have ANY letters from anybody else to buy firearms in my state.
Heck, in my state, some functional firearms aren't even considered to be firearms (replica black powder weapons).
Well, the article was quoting a law enforcement officer.
But then I guess that's a bit like saying "But other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play?"
Law enforcement officers are allowed to lie to you.
Whose problem is it if this law enforcement officer is wrong?
Is it his problem - or is it YOUR problem?
This:
If Current Laws Had Been Followed, There Would Have Been No Waffle House ShootingThe accused man’s father told police that he had previously taken three rifles and a handgun away from his son and locked them up over concerns regarding his mental health.
- May 2016: The Tazewell County (Illinois) Sheriff’s Office responded to a call at a CVS parking lot, where the suspect was suicidal and believed his parents were helping music star Taylor Swift harass him.
- June 2017: The suspect was accused of threatening someone with an AR-15 while wearing a pink dress outside of a public pool. According to the incident report, he then stripped naked and jumped into the pool before repeatedly flashing his genitals to the lifeguards ordering him to leave.
- July 2017: The Secret Service arrested the Waffle House suspect for attempting to breach a security barrier into a restricted area near the White House. He allegedly told the agents he was trying to set up a meeting with the president. The suspect was charged with “unlawful entry,” but the FBI apparently closed the case without pursuing a criminal conviction.
- August 2017: The accused contacted the Tazewell County Sheriff’s Office to complain that dozens of people were “tapping into his computer and phone” after he attempted to send letters to Taylor Swift. At some point soon afterward, Illinois officials revoked his state firearms license, which Illinois requires for the possession of any firearm in the state.
At some point, a society ruled by a Constitution & it's Bill of Rights must make a determination as to definitions that pertain to such things as "mental illness." I'm sure we can agree that there are some adults out there that should not be allowed to lawfully posses firearms.
The issue, as you pose, is where is that line drawn. I think in this case, the perp should have been considered mentally ill prior to the Waffle House shooting. The only way he should have been in possession of a firearm, is if he had stolen it.
I did have to get a "permission slip" from the sheriff for the handguns - but no notarizin' or letterin'. 
Given that I took no position other than to say I'd like to see the father charged with something, and I merely relayed what the article said, it looks like you are the one with the problem. Trying to stir up conflict where none exists. Are you really that starved for attention?
On a related note, did I ever mention how much I hate living in NJ? I mean really hate it? No? Well I do.
There may be no specific statute, but knowingly helping people to break the law is usually a criminal offense. Maybe being an accessory to a crime committed by others.
In most states all criminal offenses are defined by statue and there are no criminal common law offenses anymore. Not sure about Tenn or Illinois.
Pretty sure the “government” did everything they could to keep the gun out of this kid’s hands. It was only after his father returned his gun to his child that the carnage began.
If this idiot was motivated enough to kill, he would’ve chosen another weapon. Violence has nothing to do with firearms. It’s about opportunity. Fists, water, and automobiles kill more people every year than firearms.
His father should face charges for giving guns back to his son after promising not to. He should spend some jail time. After all, 4 people lost their lives because of what he did.
Of course, as you say, if he was motivated enough to do darm, he would have found a way.
The dad clearly knew his son had issues. Really bad judgement on his part when he returned the guns to his unstable kid.
The issue is a larger, societal one. A lot has changed in the last 30-40+ years.
The Jack Sawyer case offers some evidence of the difficulties in preventing violence by a determined individual.
Prohibitive ammunition taxes will be the next salvo in the gun control wars. Instead of making it illegal or unobtainable, they will simply make it unaffordable to anyone but the rich.
KC - I agree. It seemed to work the way it used to be, and I do absolutely believe that mentally ill people should not have guns. I’m just so darned concerned about the ‘who determines’ in these days of seeing so much corruption.
Was it not, 150 years ago, that the sane family member could take the insane to court and have them committed? It’s gone to the other extreme these days.
could? he damn well better!
I spend most of my time at the trench warfare on Twitter, so, no, I'm not starved for attention.
I'm just pointing out that Illinios law is what it is, and that .gov doesn't give two Mitts if you understand it or not.
Once The Hand is on your shoulder, it's YOUR problem.
Yep.
A good part of the problem is everyone thinks the mentally ill just need some help and they will get better. And some drugs do help until the person stops taking them.
The problem is that we need to bring back the institutions where these people get help and also are not on the street.
Too many mentally ill people are very good at convincing family members that they are under control, now, can I have my firearms back please?
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