Posted on 04/21/2018 2:11:32 PM PDT by ethom
Edited on 04/21/2018 3:34:58 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
President Trump said Saturday he
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I don’t care; he was a great fighter and he was definitely given a hard time for being black and beating whites at the game. He was certainly no bum like Kaepernick. More like Cassius Clay. I do believe he married the woman who he carted over state lines.
Moss Hart writes eloquently about this great, forgotten theater star.
Third message, NP!
It was Jones’ father, Robert Earl Jones, who appears in the movie “Wild River.” He plays a sharecropper on Jo Van Fleet’s farm. It was made around 1960.
Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali was a nasty, vile, MUSLIM convert, anti-white, draft dodging, NATION OF ISLAM loving, egomaniacal POS.
You're too young to know/remember some of the pertinent facts.
OTOH...I don't care one way or the other re Johnson and the pardon. I'd be okay with it, because he was probably gone after for the miscegeneration; though so were many others back then.
I have seen Paul Robeson in the movie version ( it used to be shown on channel 9, way back when I was a teen, but it has NOT, sadly, been shown anywhere, on T.V. since )several times and he was AMAZING in it. That's one heck of a play/movie, which should be revived on Broadway TODAY! But It's far too nonPC; nobody would put it on. :-(
I’ve seen the movie ( when it came out ), so it has been a very long while. I hope that TCM shows it, so i can see it again.
No, I saw the Ken Burns’ doc although I can’t stand Burns or his movies. Undoubtedly, Johnson was piece of work, like Gilpin. Ali, on the other hand, was actually a nice man. Met him several times at our club in NYC. He may have been a piece of work as a very young man but I always liked and admired him. I remember his shock at 9/11. Perhaps not the brightest bulb like most sports figures...
Actually, it was revived by the Irish Rep about six years ago and it was a huge hit for that small company. It was brilliant beyond belief. I wish I could remember the name of the actor who played the poor Pullman porter who thought himself an emperor...
They kept all the “racist” language including “feet do your stuff” and not a soul in the theater laughed - that’s how captivating the production was.
I also have a few books about America/American "culture" in the 20th century, in which the whole Johnson story is told.
I never met him and you met Ali when he was in his dotage.
I remember him from his early days forward; that makes a difference AND what he did and said, influenced and furthered the whole rancid "BLACK POWER MOVEMENT".
Ummmmmmmmmm...but the character DOES become an "Emperor".
I can’t remember all the plot points of the play. What I do remember was when it comes out that he was only a Pullman porter, the audience was obviously moved by his sad and crazy plight.
I believe it was Quincy Jones’ handsome son who did a PBS version of it years ago and it didn’t exactly send me. I’ve never seen the Robson version which must be A MUST!
I put a photo up of James Earl Jones as Johnson on my facebook page praising President Trump. Only one person thought it was a good thing. No one wanted to admit that the president had done something nice for a black man. The only person who thought it was good was my left-wing pal, Sandy. I loathe liberals more than I do left-wingers!
Yes, Jones is a Pullman porter, but he soon ditches that job, somehow gets on a ship ( works on it ? ), then he sees and island and jumps ship, literally, swims to the island, and after a while, DOES make himself the "EMPEROR" there.
When was it on PBS? How I missed THAT, I can't imagine. :-(
YIKES...you have really stupid, pathetic people posting to your FB page! If wee barry had pardoned Johnson, I bet they would all have been over the moon and praised him beyond reason.
Oh, yes, I host the stupidest people on my Facebook page, lol. Only my brother and pal Sandy have supported me. The rest kept an embarrassed silence at my praise of the president. (F them!)
It was on PBS in either the 80s or 90s, I can’t remember, np. It was not that engaging and I dared to blame O’Neill! It wasn’t until I saw the full stage version that I realized O’Neill, from the very beginning, was a genius beyond belief. I tried to google information on the PBS production but came up bubkis. I don’t think I’m hallucinating...but you never know.
The full movie is available on youtube (1 hr 12 min).
The Emperor Jones (1933) - Paul Robeson Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgRHF1ROtSM
Thanks! Very sweet of you to let us know, Repeal.
It's a pity that the vast majority of your FB followers are blithering idiots. :-(
Many, many thanks for letting us know; much appreciated!
“There weren’t any laws against seducing children/young women and “WHITE SLAVERY” was a big problem, just as “SEX TRAFFICKING” is today...except that the race/s have changed.
Obviously, you whole heartedly approve of all kinds of venal/immoral behaviors, so this sticks in your craw.”
What is .the distinction between white slavery and sex trafficking?
And obviously no, I don’t “wholeheartedly approve of all kinds of venal/immoral behaviors”. The original bone of contention was about Jack Johnson crossing state lines and then having “carnal knowledge” with a white woman and the federal government’s right to prosecute.
I hope that in your everyday life you are more circumspect then to throw down on someone you don’t know.
I apologize if I hurt your sensitivities and I would hope we are on the same team.
“And as for prohibition...I worked for 20+ years in a big city ER and could tell you stories about the carnage caused by alcohol that would make the hair on your toes curl.Yes...what I’m saying is that I think that Prohibition was a good idea...not that it really applies to the discussion at hand (as far as I can tell). “
So it’s the alcohol....or the firearm...that is the guilty party and not the person?
Years ago I had a friend who was on the US Olympic water polo team at the 1960 Rome Olympics. He got to know Cassius Clay quite well.Said he was an asshole. But of course he was just a teenager then.
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