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California Dems bid to split up state
Fox News ^ | April 18, 2018, 3 hours ago | Maxim Lott

Posted on 04/19/2018 7:24:22 AM PDT by Patriot777

Californians likely will vote in November on a long-shot referendum to split their giant state into three – a measure that, while standing little chance of success, would represent a political gift to Democrats.

Such a California breakup would upset the political balance in the Senate if it actually happened, and hurt the GOP.

According to a Fox News analysis of county-level voting data, splitting California as outlined would create two solid blue states and one leaning blue state. That could very well mean four extra Senate seats for Democrats – plus four more electoral votes in presidential elections.

So is there an ulterior motive to this otherwise quirky referendum campaign?

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2018; aleksandrionov; aleksandrvionov; alexandrionov; alexandrvionov; article4; articleiv; caleavefornia; calexit; california; democrats; elections; electoralcollege; electors; faithlesselectors; fsb; ionov; louismarinelli; marinelli; nationalpopularvote; npv; political; russianspies; split; uhuruhouse; yescalifornia
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Ulterior motive? I'll say it's outright blatant, just like everything else that goes on in California, political or no.
1 posted on 04/19/2018 7:24:22 AM PDT by Patriot777
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Something will be worked out in the Senate...

call it the Compromise of 2018 or something like that.

2 posted on 04/19/2018 7:26:27 AM PDT by glorgau
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I didn’t know it was possible to further hurt California’s GOP.


3 posted on 04/19/2018 7:26:48 AM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: Patriot777

I rather they just split the coastal section off into a new country and leave the rest behind.


4 posted on 04/19/2018 7:28:50 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Patriot777

No prob, just split Texas into 6.


5 posted on 04/19/2018 7:34:06 AM PDT by fruser1
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I didn’t know it was possible to further hurt California’s GOP.

No, they mean it would hurt the GOP on a national level by adding four tyrant collectivist senators and giving Kalifornia four more electoral votes in POTUS elections.

6 posted on 04/19/2018 7:35:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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New states may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.
So is California going to ignore Article 4, Section 3, Clause 1 of the Constitution just like they are ignoring Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 and the Supremacy Clause of Article 6? (Well, perhaps I shouldn’t ask.)
7 posted on 04/19/2018 7:36:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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This is bad idea. The lines are drawn purely for political reasons, with no sense of natural boundries.

8 posted on 04/19/2018 7:39:04 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (California: drive illegally, you lose your license, here illegally, they give you one.)
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To: Patriot777

If the move is purely to seize control of the federal government, then the federal government shouldn’t recognize them as new states.


9 posted on 04/19/2018 7:39:54 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Patriot777

The Dems hate the United States.

Why form a separate state?

The Dems should form a separate nation!

Then we crush them and march them into the ocean.

Everybody’s happy.


10 posted on 04/19/2018 7:40:03 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Not gonna happen.

The Democrats would have to agree to break up, NY, IL and MI to create 6 safe GOP seats to balance four new seats they would get from breaking up CA.

There is just no way that’s in the cards. When pigs can fly.


11 posted on 04/19/2018 7:40:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Puerto Rico voted to become a state. Hasn't been accepted by the Congress. Ther'e's no reason to believe this stunt will work, even if it passes. And like so many other things from La-La, te potential for unintended results is large. Thanks Patriot777.

12 posted on 04/19/2018 7:47:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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Keywords Caleavefornia, Calexit, Yes California, sorted, de-dup'ed.

13 posted on 04/19/2018 7:49:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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Nothing but a scheme to Add 4 Rat Senators and 2 Rat Governors we’d probably lose the Senate for a generation.


14 posted on 04/19/2018 7:50:04 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: SunkenCiv

Same reason DC’s bid for statehood has never passed Congress.

Democrats would get two safe US Senate seats out of it.

What’s in it for the GOP? On second thought, don’t ask.


15 posted on 04/19/2018 7:52:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like the rest of Calif would be red. I say turn new England’s 6 states into one. 12 Senators become 2. California’s 2 become 4. 46 states. Red +1. Blue -10. Like the rats will let it happen.


16 posted on 04/19/2018 7:54:40 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Patriot777

If the RATS are pushing it, they KNOW they will pickup 2 more Senate Seats.
Nothing happens in CA without the blessing of the CA DNC.


17 posted on 04/19/2018 8:26:10 AM PDT by Zathras
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The split they’re proposing doesn’t make a lot a sense for self determination. It’s not along ideological lines, which to me is the only reason to do so.


18 posted on 04/19/2018 9:10:56 AM PDT by aquila48
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No. They only want this to gain more leftist Senators.


19 posted on 04/19/2018 9:32:18 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Patriot777

I hadn’t thought too much about it having a PARTISAN political motive until we all saw the county-by-county lines of the breakup that is being proposed.

Mainly, what is to remain of California, comprising many counties along the coast, does not include what I think should very naturally be included, taking in more of the “Liberal” “west coast” instead of, as the proposal does, plops some of the Liberal coastal counties into the other two segments, Northern and Southern California, which might otherwise be more “Red”.

By making the “cut off” of the northern end of “California” to include Montery County but no further, it cuts off the naturally Liberal counties north of that but below Marin and lumps them into what would otherwise likely be a “Red” Northern California. I would add the counties of San Benito, Santa Cruz, Santa Clara (Silicon Valley), San Mateo, Alameda (Oakland), San Francisco and Contra Costa to “California”. I would also add Bakersfield County (immediately north of Los Angeles County) to California.

By removing those counties from Northern and Southern California, I think those two counties have a better chance of registering “red”, and leaving the majority of “Liberal” California together and to itself.

Anyone for making a new formal breakup plan???


20 posted on 04/19/2018 9:53:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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