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Supreme Court just handed the Trump administration a loss on immigration — Gorsuch was tiebreaking
Business Insider ^ | April 17, 2018

Posted on 04/17/2018 8:07:34 AM PDT by SMGFan

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To: apillar

I don’t have a problem with saying that “crimes of violence” is too vague — especially when I can envision some lib arguing so-called “hate speech” is violence against X.


21 posted on 04/17/2018 8:43:15 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: SMGFan

Break into my house and I make it a crime of violence. Fool. These ivy league judges are fools.


22 posted on 04/17/2018 8:44:21 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: dfwgator
We’ve been duped again.
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It sure looks that way.Why Trump picked this privileged princeling has always puzzled me.

Judge Nap would have delivered the goods, but now we're stuck with this turd for the next 40+ years.

23 posted on 04/17/2018 8:45:44 AM PDT by sailor76 ( TRUMP, is still my hero.)
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To: SMGFan

The Supreme Court has absolutely NO SAY on matters of immigration.

That is solely the purview of the Executive Branch.


24 posted on 04/17/2018 8:48:53 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: teeman8r

Or it was a crap law not well written. Congress is notorious for that as are agencies


25 posted on 04/17/2018 8:50:05 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: WayneS

>> Is simple burglary a crime of violence? <<

If the burglar kicked in your door, then yes, it was a violent entry.

But if you left the door unlocked, or if the burglar picked your lock and entered with damaging the door, then the entry and the crime were not violent.


26 posted on 04/17/2018 8:53:48 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: TexasGurl24
Justice Gorsuch did NOT join Kagan’s opinion in full. He wrote a an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judgment.

The bottom line is, his vote was the same as hers'.

27 posted on 04/17/2018 8:55:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sailor76

>> Judge Nap would have delivered the goods <<

I get the impression that you don’t know much about the extreme libertarian (and out-of-the-closet homo) Judge Nap.


28 posted on 04/17/2018 8:56:41 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SMGFan

Gun laws are also usually vague. Is Gorsuch setting a standard for future challenges to gun laws?


29 posted on 04/17/2018 8:56:59 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: dfwgator

>> The bottom line is, his vote was the same as hers <<

Sure. Only the result counts. Legal reasoning has no place in SCOTUS decisions.


30 posted on 04/17/2018 8:58:05 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Nifster

That too


31 posted on 04/17/2018 8:58:50 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: apillar; SMGFan
"Typically misleading media interpretation. Gorsuch ruling mirrored Scalia's 2015 ruling in a similar case that ruled "crimes of violence" is unconstitutionally vague. If anything Gorsuch was upholding Scalia's brand of judicial conservatism and limiting government overreach. A good synopsis of what really happened and Gorsuch's legal reasoning can be found here.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/10/argument-analysis-faithful-scalia-gorsuch-may-deciding-vote-immigrant/

This bears repeating.

There is a remedy here....Congress.

They could make the law(s) less "vague."

Now, as long as we can hold the Congress after this fall, it can be done with enough pressure on them.

32 posted on 04/17/2018 8:59:40 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

We went through this BS with Judas Roberts.

I don’t care what his reasoning was, the bottom line is he voted FOR ObamaCare.


33 posted on 04/17/2018 9:00:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: apillar
limiting government overreach

You deserve an A for effort for trying to make a gem out of a cow patty. Deporting people who are here illegally, whether they have committed additional crimes or not, is not "government overreach." It's the government doing its job.

34 posted on 04/17/2018 9:01:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: TexasGurl24

Sounds like a reasonable decision that cleaves to the Constitution.

Media gloating aside, the ruling does not strike down the law, only one clause. As Gorsuch said, all listed crimes are still in effect in speeding up the process.


35 posted on 04/17/2018 9:04:07 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: TexasGurl24

Thank you and Apilar for unspinning this.


36 posted on 04/17/2018 9:05:31 AM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! MAGA!)
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To: dfwgator

An opinion concurring in the judgment is not “the same” vote. By definition, concurring on the judgment means that the vote is on different grounds.

Supreme Court decisions are more complex than the picture ASSPRESS tries to paint to feeble minds.


37 posted on 04/17/2018 9:06:23 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: Skywise
"burglary isn’t inherently 'violent.' ”

It should be if the burglar is armed with anything that can be deemed a weapon.

38 posted on 04/17/2018 9:07:22 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: dfwgator

Yup, and he certainly wasn’t voting the way Scalia did.


39 posted on 04/17/2018 9:08:38 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Hawthorn
How is Judge Nap an "extreme libertarian"?

As for his personal life, that's his business not mine.

40 posted on 04/17/2018 9:09:16 AM PDT by sailor76 ( TRUMP, is still my hero.)
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