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The Cal 3 Initiative: Three Californias may be coming soon
American Thinker ^ | 04/16/2018 | Fritz Pettyjohn

Posted on 04/16/2018 10:03:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Tim Draper is a rich man, but he understands he doesn't know it all.  His first attempt to divide California into six states made little sense.  So he went out and got some people who are experts on the subject.  The result, Cal 3, is a political masterpiece.  This could work.

When California was admitted to the Union in 1850, it had only 92,000 people, most of them scrambling for gold in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.  That's why California's county lines are so screwy.  Los Angeles County now has 10,000,000 people.  Alpine County has 1,000.


Cal 3 divides the state along lines
that make geographic, cultural, and political sense.  The population is divided roughly into thirds.  North and South are still very large states, and what's left of California would be a medium-size state.

In order for this to work, it will need to get a majority not just of the total vote.  Majorities will be needed in all three prospective states.  Looking at this map makes me think that could happen, for one important reason: partisan politics.

The Democrats in Washington, D.C. are going to love this idea.  Now California has two Democratic senators.  Under Cal 3, it will have four Democratic senators from ultra-blue North California and California.  The two senators from South California will be up for grabs.  Democrats could pick off one of them or even two.  The Democrats will not lose Senate seats, but they might gain one or two.  For a D, what's not to like?  Plus somebody gets to fill these new Senate seats.  People's eyes will light up.

If the Democrats win control of both House and Senate this year, they would have an incentive to support Cal 3.  The backing of President Trump can be negotiated.  

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: cal3; calexit; california; newcalifornia; secession; timdraper
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To: Magnum44; SeekAndFind
"What happened to the state of Jefferson proponents?"

Still around, and a far better proposal...at least from a Conservative perspective. +1 state, +2 (R) Senators.

The folks from the more conservative northern/sierra's part of the state are more in favor of this plan.

Official site: http://soj51.org/
Weekly talkshow: http://apps.kcnr1460.com/Show/archive/jefferson_state

61 posted on 04/16/2018 12:00:05 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: ridesthemiles
"ULTRA BLUE N Calif? Just exactly WHERE is that dividing line? The Northern counties of Calif-—away from the coast are NOT Liberal."

True, however...this Cal 3 proposal puts San Francisco and Sacramento counties in "Nor Cal." The populations of those two counties alone would dwarf the others and therefore be ultra blue overall.

A far better option is the State Of Jefferson.


62 posted on 04/16/2018 12:03:42 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SeekAndFind

Jerry and Company may have dealt California it’s biggest blow yet since statehood.

It appears they’ve just about destroyed the unified state.

Way to go assholes!

Couldn’t have more contempt for the Leftists in California.


63 posted on 04/16/2018 12:05:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Ingtar

I’m thinking it might be the other way around. The counties and cities that are bucking the, Sanctuary policies, are in the Northern and Southern California states. A little aggressive enforcement and the illegals could start moving to the new, California. A significant portion of those areas are Conservative, so who knows.

Now, if they could just move the border of Washington and Oregon and have it cut the states in two, going North to South, that could be two more Republicans. Give the radical Leftists the coast and give the farmers and ranchers the east side, where they already live and they won’t be effected by the loonie policies of the liberals.


64 posted on 04/16/2018 12:19:04 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I agree that the entire bay area has to go to California and let the remainder of N Calif form a state on its own.


65 posted on 04/16/2018 12:24:53 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: SeekAndFind

Would these three or four pieces automatically become states or revert back to territorial status pending admission to the Union? As territories, their “delegates” to congress would have no votes on important issues. Then the GOP could perhaps block admission of California pending endless study committees.


66 posted on 04/16/2018 12:27:04 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Magnum44

In the final division, the counties along the coast, encompassing the counties north of Monterey and south of Marin, including San Mateo slightly inland, should not be part of “Northern California” but left with their Liberal cousins in the new California. That should make for just two Dim senators for “California” alone. That would also leave San Fransisco Bay as a natural geographic dividing line along the coastal region between California and Northern California. I hope politically it is not too late for the proposition proponents to change course on that.


67 posted on 04/16/2018 1:14:21 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

The map has San Francisco in the Northern California “state.” This means Northern California will be run by San Francisco, with its big city greater population. If I lived in northern Calif. I think I would be wary of this proposal.


68 posted on 04/16/2018 1:38:57 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

So thecaliforniates are fighting each other the same way the muzzie states fight each other?


69 posted on 04/16/2018 2:17:47 PM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: SeekAndFind

They will need border walls


70 posted on 04/16/2018 2:18:43 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are two states so big and
one so small?


71 posted on 04/16/2018 2:38:19 PM PDT by Leep (Make The Swamp Small Again!)
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To: shotgun
Based on the map it looks like libs would control the new northern state and the coastal state. How is this a win for anybody but the rats.

Actually, it's pretty fair overall. The districts will not change, so the House stays as-is. The Senate now has 2 permanent D votes. In that 3-state plan, as you note, one would lean Right, and the other 2 Left. Thus, the Ds would get 4 Senators, and the Rs would get 2... each side goes +2. Overall, not terrible.

72 posted on 04/16/2018 2:52:25 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SeekAndFind

I could live with the demarcations for SoCal, but NorCal isn’t going to be real hot about accepting SFO/Alameda, Sta Clara or Sta Mateo.

What happened to 7 states?


73 posted on 04/16/2018 3:49:47 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: D Rider; Sam Gamgee

YES. All the legal rights and privileges of a U.S. possession. Federal law will take care of the legislative law breakers as well as sweep the territory clean of any and all illegal invaders.


74 posted on 04/17/2018 6:54:23 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: mrs9x
You got it!☺
75 posted on 04/17/2018 9:12:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: oldasrocks; sasportas
So the californiates are fighting each other the same way the muzzie states fight each other?

That's probably the dumbest comment I've read in the past 24 hours. Congratulations. Btw, instead of fighting them, did you expect conservative patriots in CA to kiss the leftists azzes and keep it all business as usual?

wow...

76 posted on 04/17/2018 9:23:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Delta 21

Oh right. Like Puerto Rico? Does PR get colleges towards the final POTUS vote?


77 posted on 04/17/2018 3:48:13 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: oldasrocks

If ya have something to say to me, say it here on the open public forum. Say out of my PM.


78 posted on 04/17/2018 4:50:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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