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Volunteer Church Member Stops Attacker in Church Gunfight
Ammoland ^ | 4 April, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/07/2018 9:07:12 PM PDT by marktwain

Volunteer Church Member Stops Attacker in Church Gunfight

On Wednesday, 28 March, 2018, the West Maypole Avenue Church of Christ was having a Bible study that started at 7:30 p.m. At 8:09 p.m., the study was interrupted by 27-year-old Kenneth Baines, who announced an armed robbery. A 57-year-old armed church member was seated inside. The church member was legally armed and had a concealed carry permit.

It seems likely that he was a member of a voluntary church security team, as later reports refer to him as a “security guard”, but no report mentions that he had a security guard license, or that he was paid as a security guard. From suntimes.com on 29 March, 2018:

A 57-year-old man was sitting in a the church at 8:09 p.m. in the 4400 block of West Maypole when a 27-year-old man walked in and announced a robbery, according to Chicago Police.

Maypole Avenue Church of Christ is located at 4400 W. Maypole.

The two men then started shooting at each other, police said. The older man was struck in the left arm and taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in good condition. The robber was shot multiple times in the chest and was in critical condition at Stroger Hospital.

The 57-year-old legally owned his gun, police said.

From the Maypole Ave Church of Christ Facebook page:

“We solemnly pray for our brother in Christ and the perpetrator of this heinous deed.”

To be a paid and armed security guard in Chicago, a special permit is required,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; church; il; illinois
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To: Keyhopper

Preacher says Not to bring guns to church. Little old lady next to me says “ he can kiss my rosary I’ll keep mine thanks”. Ever enjoy a place where every body may be carrying but you don t know who?


21 posted on 04/07/2018 11:09:54 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Render unto Ceasar. Let God handle the rest.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Ack! Not “satire,” but “sarcasm.” But Mastador covered it well just before I spoke up.

Thanks, I tried to be firm but gentle.

22 posted on 04/07/2018 11:20:36 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: marktwain

Good guy with a gun, stops bad guy with a gun..........again!!! And we want to take away guns from good guys? How about we start with BAD guys first.


23 posted on 04/07/2018 11:52:01 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Mastador1; Josa; Impy

Never on Sunday ...


24 posted on 04/08/2018 1:10:33 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: marktwain

I know we have gun carriers in my church.... :-))

AND we have a plan.


25 posted on 04/08/2018 3:01:04 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 ( Thank GOD Hillary didn't get elected!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The robber was shot multiple times in the chest
Nice shooting there Tex.

Get well soon.
_____________________
Nice shooting for mass by the defender, but the fact the robber didn’t die suggests the defender may wish to consider carrying a more lethal side arm.


26 posted on 04/08/2018 3:07:44 AM PDT by iontheball (lLL)
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To: marktwain

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition.


27 posted on 04/08/2018 3:09:01 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: marktwain
The older man was struck in the left arm and taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in good condition. The robber was shot multiple times in the chest and was in critical condition at Stroger Hospital.

Sounds like the protector was great under pressure of fire and had trained well with his firearm. Not so with the perp.

God protects all who protect themselves.

28 posted on 04/08/2018 3:32:37 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Equine1952

I love that!


29 posted on 04/08/2018 3:41:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mastador1

Oh, puleeeease!


30 posted on 04/08/2018 3:49:22 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: oldbrowser
But no report mentions that he had a security guard license, or that he was paid as a security guard.

So he is a security guard, whether he had a license or got paid, he did in fact provide security.

But because he was not an officially credentialed security guard, he only unofficially stopped the attacker... who is unofficially in the hospital. And the congregation was unofficially protected.

"It's good to be credentialed."

31 posted on 04/08/2018 4:36:29 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

A man who was only taking money from a wealthier church to give to poorer church folk, a Godly Robin of da Hood...


32 posted on 04/08/2018 4:41:00 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: niteowl77
"It's good to be credentialed."

Well of course. That way some government can decide who's worthy, and levy a tax.

Gotta keep the peasants under control don't you know.

33 posted on 04/08/2018 4:41:42 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: freepertoo

The / s was implied :)


34 posted on 04/08/2018 4:42:58 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Keyhopper

Yeah, but the older you get, the harder it is to remember things, right?


35 posted on 04/08/2018 4:53:06 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: marktwain

Ah, the photo of a Chicago PD cruiser.
Did Mayor Rahm rush to the scene to comfort the church members.


36 posted on 04/08/2018 4:56:27 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

The only thing I worry about if this happens in my church is the cross fire....


37 posted on 04/08/2018 4:57:30 AM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Nice shooting, but the parishioner needs a change in caliber or bullet type, maybe a hydra shok.


38 posted on 04/08/2018 5:01:58 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: ASA Vet
Well of course. That way some government can decide who's worthy, and levy a tax.

And existing media can decide who is/isn't an "officially credentialed journalist." Control the credentialing, and you control it all.

"Dear congregation,

Brother Stalwart has not completed the mandated state and local firearms training, so he will be unable to protect us.

In the meantime, the city has generously offered to have the newest member of their vibrant and diverse police force - Officer Moe Akbar - drive past our building during services to make certain you are safe. Officer Ackbar is fully credentialed by the state and city."

39 posted on 04/08/2018 5:05:07 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: marktwain

The implicit bias in the article is probably purely reflexive at this point. The make a point of telling us that the church guy was a legal owner, as if we should care, but do not give us the same information about the guy who initiated multiple illegal actions.


40 posted on 04/08/2018 5:08:52 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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