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Scary, hot new drug called ‘spirit molecule’
WND ^ | 4/6/18 | wnd staff

Posted on 04/06/2018 2:27:35 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Johns Hopkins studies effects of DMT, including encounters with ‘autonomous beings’

WASHINGTON – It’s one of the most popular new hallucinogenic drugs being smoked by young people around the world, with many users reporting “spiritual encounters” with entities that sound a lot like demons.

And now, Johns Hopkins University is studying the alarming effects of DMT, or Dimethyltryptamine, asking volunteers who have taken the drug about encounters they may have had with “seemingly autonomous beings or entities.”

One researcher characterized DMT as a “spirit molecule.”

So bizarre are the effects that users have described crossing into another world and seeing “machine elves,” aliens or cartoon cats. One woman reported being swarmed by apparently alive Slinky toys.

The research team is headed by Roland Griffiths, a behavioral biologist with a history of studying psychedelic substances that produce “mystical-type and near-death experiences.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: addictions; drugs; hallucinogen; psychosis
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To: Noumenon

Read all his stuff, at the time.
Unfortunately, they even gave him a Masters Degree based on one of his books, as-if it was “real, original, research.”
It’s very fanciful. (treat it as Fiction.)

As an alternative, I’d suggest:

“Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved:
A Chemical Love Story.”
By (Dr.) Alexander and (Dr.) Ann Shulgin
Wherein, they meticulously discusse some 179 different Phenethylamine derivatives, many of which he discovered himself.

https://erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal.shtml


101 posted on 04/07/2018 6:49:48 AM PDT by Voption
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To: steve86

The only way to get measured/pharmaceutical-grade delta-9 THC, is to get an RX for “Marinol,” (Schedule 3) it comes in 5 & 10mg capsules.

Been approved for years, to treat appetite in HIV/AID’s, and to combat nausea in chemotherapy, and.... for “off label” uses. Your insurance won’t cover it, unless you have cancer or HIV, but you’ll always know exactly how much you are taking.

Nobody ‘really’ needs more than 5-10mg of THC to get off. (unless you have a massive tolerance, at which point you need to slow down...)
I’d suggest; buy an 1/8 of some super-potent variety, then get an oz of street weed, mix judiciously/sparingly, so you can actually smoke more than 1 hit at a time.

High dose THC, mimics hallucinogens. Don’t go there, unless you plan on it!

http://www.marinol.com/


102 posted on 04/07/2018 7:06:25 AM PDT by Voption
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; KC_Lion

“The Peace Pipe”, cocoa leaves, magic mushrooms...it’s all out there if you know where to look.


103 posted on 04/07/2018 10:06:38 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This has been known for at least 20 years. I recall hearing about it on Art Bell's Coast to Coast of all places.
104 posted on 04/07/2018 11:21:12 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

That’s some scary stuff. I’ve read somewhat-similar stories.


105 posted on 04/08/2018 12:12:36 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Voption

Thanks, you can actually estimate the dosage of THC quite accurately using the vape cartridges. You have the total weight, say 500 mg, the percentage THC, say 73%, and the number of expected 5-second puffs per cartridge (say 100 - stated by the manufacturer). Subtract say 20% for inefficiency (lost vapor). Straightforward arithmetic. I had 4 puffs but feel even the first would have had about the same effect (each hit me like a truck). The dosage per individual puff has a lot of variability, no doubt, but averaged over several comes closer to the expected. But as I said, I am done with THC in any significant amount. Seems to offer me nothing. The hallucinations were cute but nothing I need to experience again. Sticking with CBD.


106 posted on 04/08/2018 12:28:11 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: RegulatorCountry

My wife has a friend that was dizzy due to a urinary tract infection. My wife said a relative had one and it got so bad she started seeing aliens. Once the infection was under control the aliens went away. (Now THAT would be scary - if they didn’t go away!)


107 posted on 04/08/2018 12:30:43 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: steve86

Thanks for that tidbit— I know less than zero about “vaping,” and would defer to your knowledge.

(There is also a distinct difference, between the Indicus & Sativa varieties, be aware of that factoid.)

take care!


108 posted on 04/08/2018 7:56:41 AM PDT by Voption
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To: 21twelve

Oh yeah.... UTI’s can mess up your head big time, especially in older woman.
Did a stint in Geriatric-Mental Health, and if one of the lady’s started decompensating for no apparent reason, that’s the first thing we looked at.


109 posted on 04/08/2018 8:01:23 AM PDT by Voption
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To: Right Wing Assault

I’ve done the inpatient Gig before (as a Staff! har) and have witnessed people experiencing DT’s.
(alcohol is a ‘toxic substance’ at high enough blood-alcohol levels. It’s less of a “mystical’ experience and more of a straight neurotoxicity Event.)

Ya’ load them up with Librium (and maybe some Risperdal for the hallucinations)(and pump some B-Vitamins into them as well) for about a week-10 days and then back off the Librium to zero, s-l-o-w-l-y, and sign them up for a 12-step program, ASAP.
The huge problem with misuse to that extent-— every time you ‘lose it completely,’ you don’t necessarily “come back 100%.” Do that a dozen times...and you’re literally Toasted.


110 posted on 04/08/2018 8:21:59 AM PDT by Voption
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

Is there stress round here cuz of tax season?
The 1116 & 8962 are annoying

Gotta get outside and enjoy our last chilly day.
Heatwave hits 2moro


111 posted on 04/10/2018 10:01:20 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I may have to find out how much my dad can take out an IRA without having to file.


112 posted on 04/11/2018 3:14:53 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

This false spring has been killing me, 60 degrees please!! I’ll settle for 55!


113 posted on 04/11/2018 3:15:49 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

I am now on welfare ... Getting an obamacare refund

Remind me to tell u about Roth conversion


114 posted on 04/11/2018 3:37:57 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
It’s one of the most popular new hallucinogenic drugs being smoked by young people around the world

Everything old is new again.

"during the 1960s in the United States, as a user could access the full depth of a psychedelic experience in considerably less time than with other substances such as LSD or magic mushrooms..."

115 posted on 04/11/2018 3:45:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

More Sox - who’s fireworks tonite?

My big kitten Almost was lunch today for hawk

He escaped


116 posted on 04/12/2018 3:56:46 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Sox vs. Yanks


117 posted on 04/12/2018 5:08:27 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj

That’s horrifying.

My mom has been feeding birds outside the church where she works, their favorite pigeon got taken by a hawk.


118 posted on 04/12/2018 6:35:09 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

They are.protected species
Cannot get em with rifle

Cat not looking to go outside since. Used up one of his 9 lives


119 posted on 04/12/2018 6:41:11 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: Impy

Any snows in Windy city?

Lots beisbol rained out
LeBron routed


120 posted on 04/15/2018 3:09:05 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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