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To: Morpheus2009
Once the car went air-born, wouldn't the drive wheels spin much faster due to loss of friction? (Assuming the driver's foot was still pressing on the gas)
14 posted on 04/01/2018 5:29:42 AM PDT by laker_dad
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To: laker_dad

I think the speedometer is driven by the driveshaft. It the accelerator was still depressed the indicated speed would increase quickly.


16 posted on 04/01/2018 5:35:14 AM PDT by GMMC0987
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To: laker_dad

Once the car went air-born, wouldn’t the drive wheels spin much faster due to loss of friction? (Assuming the driver’s foot was still pressing on the gas)

They might stop spinning altogether if the car had a limited-slip differential. Once airborne, the wheels would sense loss of traction and the anti-slip system would kick in to release the wheel from the drive.


28 posted on 04/01/2018 6:08:52 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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That's what I was thinking. Intentional or not, if I sailed off a cliff I just might panic or stiffen/brace - pushing the gas pedal to the floor. Freewheeling, with only drive-line rotational inertia to fight, it would spin up to 90+ quickly. That'd be especially true if the vehicle was already travelling at a high rate of speed. I'm not sure a loaded minivan is capable of accelerating to 90 mph in a reasonable distance - I'm not familiar with that stretch of road (suppose I could go look at google maps) Or it could just be the way the dashboard was mangled on impact...

What's telling to me are two things. One, no marks on the highway or shoulder. If this was an accident - driver distracted momentarily etc. you would expect some attempt at correction - braking and or turning. That should leave significant, easily identifiable marks in the dirt of the shoulder of the road. I've seen this first hand - witnessed a motorcycle accident, and after assisting with getting the rider life-flighted out helped fire and police investigators find the exact point at which he departed the roadway - for measurements and speed estimation based on where he and the bike came to rest (he was flying, literally and figuratively).

Two, they said there were no marks on the hillside, the vehicle impacted in the tidal area. That does point to a fair amount of reckless and/or intentional speed to "fly" over the hillside and land in the flat. Again, it depends on the height and slope, but investigators will be able to estimate speed fairly well from this. Generally speaking, you've got to be going very fast because that 32.174 ft per second per second acceleration begins moving you down very rapidly. To clear an obstacle (ie. not impact the hillside) you've got to have a lot of horizontal speed and/or a bit of an up vector.

41 posted on 04/01/2018 6:36:08 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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To: laker_dad
Once the car went air-born, wouldn't the drive wheels spin much faster due to loss of friction? (Assuming the driver's foot was still pressing on the gas)

Absolutely.

52 posted on 04/01/2018 7:27:46 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: laker_dad
Once the car went air-born, wouldn't the drive wheels spin much faster due to loss of friction? (Assuming the driver's foot was still pressing on the gas)

My first thought.

59 posted on 04/01/2018 7:43:08 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: laker_dad

They were driving a 2003 Yukon. GM vehicles since 1996 have an EDR, like an airplanes black box, that records vehicle data for the last seconds before a crash. The police have more information than is being released.


74 posted on 04/01/2018 8:02:20 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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Either way, it was an intentional killing.


88 posted on 04/01/2018 9:09:38 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: laker_dad

I’d think it would be a simple physics calculation of speed and gravity...much like a ballistics chart that could calculate how much horizontal travel from the cliff edge a car travelling at 90 mph would make before gravity won.


96 posted on 04/01/2018 9:18:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( Hillary, DNC, DOJ and FBI colluded with a British National to influence the 2016 Pres. election)
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