That is possible.
Here is what you said: "The speedometer is pegged therefore the vehicle was going 90. "
What did you mean ? Here is the dash of a 2003 GMC Yukon. Note that the speedometer reading goes to 120.
Posted on 04/01/2018 4:52:59 AM PDT by Hojczyk
The speedometer of a Washington state family’s SUV was “pinned” at 90 mph when the vehicle was found Monday afternoon, crushed along the rocks of a Northern California shoreline, court documents say.
Authorities included the information in an affidavit for a search warrant for the home of Jennifer and Sarah Hart, adoptive parents of six children -- all of whom are believed to have perished when the vehicle plunged off the Pacific Coast Highway, Fox 12 Oregon reported.
The two women and three of the children were found dead at the crash site Monday, but it was unclear how much time had elapsed between the accident and the discovery.
Three other children are missing and may have been carried out to sea, authorities have said.
The family had been living in Oregon until last year when they moved to Woodland, Wash.
Meanwhile, law enforcement officers believe "a felony has been committed" in the case, the court documents say.
The exact nature of the suspected felony was not known, but according to the documents, "Based upon the California Highway Patrol investigation, it is their belief ‘a felony has been committed,’” Fox 12 Oregon reported.
However, authorities maintain there’s no evidence to suggest the crash was intentional, the Oregonian reported.
The court documents indicate that CHP investigators found no “acceleration marks, tire friction marks or braking furrow marks” at the scene, and there was no evidence the car collided with the embankment as it “traversed towards the tidal zone below,” Fox 12 reported.
According to the Oregonian, friends’ depictions and social media posts of the Hart family are at odds with police records.
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From the FBI abstract on determining vehicle speed at impact.
BECAUSE SKID MARKS ARE NOT ALWAYS LEFT AT THE SCENE AND BECAUSE DAMAGE ESTIMATES DEPEND MORE ON GUESS THAN ON OBJECTIVE CACULATION, BOTH KINDS OF INVESTIGATIONS ARE LIMITED. VEHICLE SPEED AT IMPACT CAN SOMETIMES BE DETERMINED BY EXAMINING THE SPEEDOMETER, TACHOMETER, AND TACHOGRAPH. HOWEVER, A DIRECT SPEEDOMETER READING OF A STUCK NEEDLE AFTER AN ACCIDENT MAY NOT BE RELIABLE, PARTICULARLY IF THE READING IS AT OR NEAR ZERO. IN SEVERE HEAD-ON OR FIXED-OBJECT COLLISIONS, THE SPEEDOMETER NEEDLE MAY MAKE A VISIBLE STAMP OR MARK ON THE DIAL. AT OTHER TIMES, THE DRIVER’S BODY OR OTHER OBJECTS MAY COME IN CONTACT WITH THE SPEEDOMETER DURING COLLISION, BENDING THE NEEDLE AND CAUSING IT TO PUSH AGAINST THE DIAL. IF THE NEEDLE STICKS AND THE DAMAGE IS RELATIVELY STRAIGHT FROM FRONT TO REAR, THE VEHICLE IMPACT SPEED MAY BE DETERMINED, AND SUBSTANTIATED BY DAMAGE AND OTHER EVIDENCE. OTHER SPEED DETERMINATORS INCLUDE PAINT SMEARS ON THE DIAL LEFT BY THE NEEDLE AT THE TIME OF IMPACT AND TACHOGRPAH AND TACHOMETER FINDINGS. SPEEDOMETERS SHOULD BE PHOTOGRAPHED BEFORE REMOVAL, HANDLED GENTLY, AND REMOVED WITH THE COMPLETE INSTRUMENT PANEL, IF POSSIBLE. AN EXAMINATION REQUEST SHOULD ACCOMPANY THE SPEEDOMETER TO THE LAB, ALONG WITH A BRIEF ACCOUNT OF THE ACCIDENT, ANY SPEED CALCULATIONS, AND OTHER PERTINENT DATA. THE LABORATORY EXAMINATION CONSISTS OF OBSERVATION, MICROSCOPIAL ANALYSIS, AND PHOTOMICROGRAPHY UNDER NORMAL LIGHTING CONDITIONS AND ULTRAVIOLET (UV) LIGHT. IN SOME CASES, IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH OF VERY SMALL PARTICLES UNDER UV LIGHT THAN IT IS TO OBSERVE THEM. PHOTOGRAPHS ARE INCLUDED. (AOP)
Could have floored it as they were falling. The speedo merely counts the revs of the wheel.
They didn’t mention the EDR or digitally reading the speed. I’ve disassembled and replaced crash damaged speedometers, some quite mangled, not one was stuck.
LOL
The person was using autofill on their tablet or phone. It happens.
You didn’t understand my post.
I had assumed as much. I wasn't criticizing your spelling or grammar. It's just that I keep noticing the same pattern and it happens quite a bit was a multitude of posters.
Funny how we have these enormously powerful computers (smartphones, tablets) and yet they lead to incorrect wording.
It is why I prefer a full blown desktop with a regular keyboard.
Hope the reason for your hospital visit is a short one, and may God Bless you and your family.
Either way, it was an intentional killing.
I think that it is a case of the reporter not conveying the information properly.
I’ve disassembled and replaced crash damaged speedometers, some quite mangled, not one was stuck.
That's why I said it was highly unlikely. I am almost 100% positive it was an electronic speedometer and they got the 'speed' reading from the computer.
These crazy lezbo bitches Thelma and Louised those poor children
And the faggot media dead silent
They had a bunch of children in the car
You’re right but some modern electronic speedometers have sesnsors for when tires are quote spinning
That is what I assumed. I only noted that it happens a lot, and it often occurs in conjunction with double or triple posting.
What’s more important is the distance from the road to the cliff
Deliberately
I’d think it would be a simple physics calculation of speed and gravity...much like a ballistics chart that could calculate how much horizontal travel from the cliff edge a car travelling at 90 mph would make before gravity won.
I would think they would have had more air time going that fast.
I remember seeing Evil Knievel jumping a bunch of Cars at Ascot Raceway years ago with his Harley.
That is possible.
Here is what you said: "The speedometer is pegged therefore the vehicle was going 90. "
What did you mean ? Here is the dash of a 2003 GMC Yukon. Note that the speedometer reading goes to 120.
>>Technical question: Do Chevy Suburbans (or whatever they were driving) have mechanical odometers, or LCD based ones. If electronic, or electronically driven, is it possible or likely for them to be pinned at the moment of impact, and if so, is the pinned position indicative of actual speed?
The use of the term “pinned” to describe the position of the speedometer needle is unfortunate and most likely can be interpreted to mean that the needle was “stuck” at 90mph due to the car’s impact and deformation of the speedometer housing. If, the driver’s foot remained on the gas pedal the entire fall, the speedometer would most likely have been “pegged” or rotated to the fastest position that speedometer’s mechanics would allow as the engine accelerated to its maximum revolutions. The 2003 Yukon’s speedometer goes to 120mph, so the driver’s foot was most likely not frozen with the pedal to the metal.
Those poor kids probably had a rush of questions in their heads on the brief way down.
If it had hit a Wall it would be accurate.
Years ago near us some guy got killed in an accident where he his one of those big round cement overpass flyover supports.
At first they said it was an Accident. When they investigated he was doing about 100 MPH and there were no skid marks.
Turns out he committed Suicide, heading straight for it with the Pedal to the Metal.
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