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Florida International University Bridge Collapses, Cars Underneath
miami.cbslocal.com ^ | 03/15/2018 | Staff

Posted on 03/15/2018 11:32:16 AM PDT by Red Badger

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421 posted on 03/15/2018 2:39:26 PM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Cables to WHERE? The pylons were not yet constructed.”

Concrete decks often have post tension cables in addition to the rebar.


422 posted on 03/15/2018 2:41:26 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: Cementjungle

Search dog took a time-out to take a dump on the debris!


423 posted on 03/15/2018 2:42:45 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Java4Jay
I stand corrected, the bridge broke in half. When it fell the end pulled away from the support.

This would not have happened with center pillars placed in 8th street's media strip. Why a suspension bridge for pedestrian traffic only? Sounds overdone to me and away to run up the tab. Federally funded bridge by the way. Maybe incompetent minority contractors had to be in on the bonanza. Maybe...

424 posted on 03/15/2018 2:42:58 PM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: Reno89519

The video at the link no longer shows that. Another one down the rabbit hole.

If you click on the video, it takes a long time to load, then you get some other random story. I tried twice and got a shooting story, then reloaded the whole page and got a women’s fitness story.


425 posted on 03/15/2018 2:43:53 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Covenantor

Those shoring structures are the wheeled vehicles that carried the span to its final position. They were removed.. in hindsight, they should have supported the middle until they were able to install the suspension.


426 posted on 03/15/2018 2:45:49 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: steve86
It would not have needed ground supports once the suspension was in place.

I get it. A suspension bridge without any suspension. At least not right away. Turns out the suspension was needed right away. Suspension design was dumb and a showoff deal. Just build it with center pillars next time and forget any suspension. When this POS is rebuilt (at US taxpayers expense) my bet is suspension will be OUT and center pillars IN.

427 posted on 03/15/2018 2:47:47 PM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: al_c

Thanks for the info... Haven’t delved deeply into the story...yet.


428 posted on 03/15/2018 2:50:42 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: meyer

Thanks for the info.


429 posted on 03/15/2018 2:51:43 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yup


430 posted on 03/15/2018 2:52:33 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: steve86

Yep. That concrete platform, sans any supporting beams, was designed to be suspended. Without the suspension cables, it basically collapsed under its own weight.

There is a reason that we don’t make wrench handles out of concrete. Makes a great pad, but a terrible lever.


431 posted on 03/15/2018 2:53:31 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: shotgun

I’m an MEP engineer. High-rise buildings are probably the best description of a specialty for me.


432 posted on 03/15/2018 2:54:04 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (This account has been banned or suspended.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Per a reporter on WPLG just now: FDOT officials were on site at the time of the collapse, some sort of stress test had been or was being done, something “involving cables”.


433 posted on 03/15/2018 2:56:45 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: shotgun

I would look into the fact that it was a span that crossed 8 lanes and a median without being supported.


434 posted on 03/15/2018 2:58:17 PM PDT by PJBankard
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To: Red Badger
That’s all well and good if you’re building stairs.................../s

Well, it does help find X.

Baby steps you know.

435 posted on 03/15/2018 3:00:19 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (This account has been banned or suspended.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Cables to WHERE? The pylons were not yet constructed.”

Maybe the crane was supporting the bridge. Maybe they were tightened the crane cable and it snapped. I don’t know what he meant. It was obvious that he knew what he meant, but the dumb ABC reported did not ask him to elaborate. In fact the ABC reporter was acting like he did not want to hear what the guy had to say.


436 posted on 03/15/2018 3:00:28 PM PDT by Revel
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To: PeteB570
“...A pedestrian bridge under construction collapsed Thursday less than a week after crews dropped the elevated span in place over the Tamiami Trail in an effort to provide Florida International Univeristy students a safe route across the busy roadway."

An effort to provide safe road crossing by ignoring every safety check and construction method. Unreal. "For the children", of course.

437 posted on 03/15/2018 3:02:12 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317; ptsal; bagster; greeneyes; Steven W.; TEXOKIE; SkyPilot; txhurl

Here’s an interesting connection. The construction company has ties to Manafort.

https://www.bisnow.com/south-florida/news/construction-development/manafort-mcm-miami-munilla-construction-management-78613


438 posted on 03/15/2018 3:03:39 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: dennisw
The suspension support isn't supposed to be designed in place of "center pillars." The main suspension tower is BUILT as a "center pillar," in fact.

A suspension design for a short bridge like this helps eliminate the need for a supporting arch or deep vertical steel/concrete supports to hold up the bridge.

And for clarification, this bridge was not designed as a suspension but as a cable-stayed bridge. They look somewhat similar, but on a cable-stayed bridge the cables run directly from the deck to the tower(s) ... while the main cables are suspended from the towers on a suspension bridge.

439 posted on 03/15/2018 3:05:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: JME_FAN

Okay, someone mentioned there wasn’t any. You’d figure that there had to be.


440 posted on 03/15/2018 3:06:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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