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Feds charge former Pasadena police spokesman with illegally selling more than 100 guns
LA Times ^ | 02 March 2018 | Matt Hamilton

Posted on 03/02/2018 9:35:05 PM PST by blueplum

A Pasadena police officer who formerly served as spokesman for the department turned himself in to authorities Friday after a federal grand jury indicted him on charges of selling dozens of guns across Southern California without a license.

Lt. Vasken Gourdikian faces four felony counts, including illegally possessing a short-barreled rifle and providing false statements while buying firearms, according to the indictment filed Thursday in U.S. District Court.

{snip} In an online forum, he posted ads offering firearms and described the guns as "off roster" and sold an array of pistols and semiautomatic rifles across Southern California, the court papers allege.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: copsgonebad; crookedcops; guntrafficking
evidently at least one gun sold ended up in the hands law enforcement, a trace of which brought in the ATF
1 posted on 03/02/2018 9:35:05 PM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

“Police are the only ones who can be trusted with guns....”


2 posted on 03/02/2018 9:39:11 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: blueplum

I wonder if any were confiscated but never logged into evidence.


3 posted on 03/02/2018 9:45:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: blueplum; All

This sounds like a “process” prosecution to me.

California law exempts police from many of the restrains on firearms that ordinary citizens have.

So officers can purchase firearms not available to other people, with the permission of the Department. Then they can sell the fireams to others, because they are now “used” as I recall.

California firearm law is complex, and at times seems contradictory, so if someone else has more expertise on it, please correct me.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/10/28/ca-gun-owner-guilty-conspiracy-buying-pistol-cop/


4 posted on 03/02/2018 10:03:46 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: blueplum

meanwhile all it took for Holder and Soetero was to call everyone a racists, case closed.


5 posted on 03/02/2018 10:06:14 PM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: blueplum
burn him...
6 posted on 03/02/2018 10:07:02 PM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: marktwain

Checked with a LEO friend of mine in SoCal. “Off-list” weapons purchased by an officer after the law establishing the approved list went into effect cannot be sold on to a private citizen in the state. The officer can either sell it to a dealer, give/sell it to his department, sell it to another officer or sell it out of state with the usual Fed restrictions but no additional CA ones.

If he sold an offlist weapon to a non-officer, he clearly broke the law.


7 posted on 03/02/2018 10:14:03 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: blueplum

Anything the govt tries to restrict or make illegal just becomes more in demand by more and more people. Basic economics , like it or not.


8 posted on 03/02/2018 10:14:03 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Spktyr

Might be so.

The article I linked says it was different in 2014.

I have had many officers tell me things about the law that turned out to be completely wrong.

California firearms law is very complex.


9 posted on 03/02/2018 10:19:32 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I agree their laws are quite byzantine - but this is apparently pretty simple and he said he was quoting off a directive from the state AG’s office. Basically, they treat offlist firearms in CA as if they were Class 3s in the rest of the country, sans the civilian purchase possibility.


10 posted on 03/02/2018 10:35:28 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BenLurkin
I wonder if any were confiscated but never logged into evidence.

Or turned in at one of the many gun 'buy back' charades.

"Thank you ma'am. Here's your Waffle House gift card."
'Hehe...I'm sure I can get a pretty penny for this Remington 700'

11 posted on 03/03/2018 3:04:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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If he sold an offlist weapon to a non-officer, he clearly broke AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL law.

Fixed it for you.

12 posted on 03/03/2018 5:11:36 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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To: blueplum

But in California, can’t one pick and choose which laws to obey, like marijuana, sanctuary cities and protecting illegal aliens? Or is that prerogative reserved only to the ruling class?


13 posted on 03/03/2018 5:54:25 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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The cop was probably used to so many privileges that he thought he was part of the ruling class. He just found out he wasn’t.


14 posted on 03/03/2018 6:32:22 AM PST by PAR35
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To: blueplum

Well, well, well...maybe each sale should be charged as a separate crime...


15 posted on 03/03/2018 9:03:21 AM PST by Skybird
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