Posted on 02/15/2018 4:20:21 PM PST by artichokegrower
Shortly after the Empire of Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, Gary Tanimura’s family was among the more than 3,500 Japanese and Japanese Americans living in the Monterey Bay area who were stripped of their land and possessions, and detained with the help of the Monterey County Sheriff at the Salinas Armory and the Salinas Rodeo Grounds before being shipped to an internment camp in Poston, Arizona, under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s infamous Executive Order 9066.
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With the homeland propaganda machine cranking here in the US,
the Japanese here would not have been able to survive unless removed from the general population for their own protection.
The Japanese should be thanking us for treating them as well as we did,
I would never ever apologize to them.
too many years have passed to recall sources, however, what I recollect is that post-war researchers found an invasion was considered but dropped because, as you say, logistics. It was also stated their intelligence found almost every American home was armed. Not like China where they could do as they please because the people were not armed.
Trump has really smoked out these traitors hasn't he?
One of the few good decisions by Roosevelt (the Manhattan Project being the other). Some folks would probably argue that sacrificing the battleships at Pearl Harbor to bring a unified country into the war should make the list, but I believe that he misjudged the level of damage that the Japs could do.
You mean the planned invasion where the Japanese invasion force was outnumbered by the US defending force?
Not to mention bringing only one days worth of high explosive shells...
What benefit is it to perpetually pick at scabs?
From the perspective of your barcalounger, some 75 years after the fact, it may seem unfair. From the perspective of a Country that saw its Navy 'sunk', and the Singapore citadel taken, and our Army in the Philippines captured -- and knowing of many Japanese American citizens that had pledged fealty to their ancestral home and its Emperor (Shintoism) -- internment was not an outrageous position.
And regarding the brave men who fought in Italy - that was clearly seen some two year AFTER the fact of internment. It was not known/or demonstrated at the time of internment. The known data was that a brutal Japanese juggernaut was rampaging through the pacific region - killing Americans - and the Nation was in danger.
During war??
Then that would put in in the category of a staff study, ala War Plan Red.
True, but that's in reality. In surreality, which was the force ruling totalitarian Japan, there were no limits.
Admiral Yamamoto, the architect of the Pearl Harbor attack, opposed Japan's alliance with Germany and Italy and also opposed war with the U.S. He had studied at Harvard, understood the U.S. and was no fool. His idea for Pearl Harbor and the conquest of Western possessions in the Pacific was to shock the US and Britain into making terms and staying out of war with Japan.
Fascist lunatics like Tojo were running the Japanese Army and government. They thought Japan could do anything. Yamamoto was targeted for assassination. U.S. pilots eventually beat them to it when the Japanese naval code was cracked. After the Japanese naval defeat at Midway, US intelligence found out Yamamoto would touring Japanese Pacific bases. P-38 Lightnings intercepted his plane and shot it down over the Solomon Islands.
The idea of an invasion on the west coast was VERY REAL. There were several ships attacked off of the CA coast:
http://www.militarymuseum.org/Emedio.html
Its my understanding that the General in charge of the West Coast was the prime mover of the Japanese internment. One could call him rascist. But interestingly, in Hawaii, which had far more citizens of Japanese descent were not rounded up as they were considered essential to the functions of the territory/proto state. Non citizens may well have been contained, I do not know, but I always found it interesting that Hawaii did not go the California route and they bore the brunt of the attack.
No doubt, many innocent Japanese-Americans were caught up in the WWII internment, but I suspect that the 20/20 hindsight being cast back to the early 1940s is just as shortsighted, and lacking in understanding of the realities of that time, as many other exercises in 20/20 hindsight some Americans just can’t resist indulging in.
There is no shortage of America hating leftist and guilt-ridden, self-loathing Americans who have an orgasmic emotional experience whenever America apologizes, or in any way admits some past wrong, however legitimate or illegitimate it might be.
I think entirely unwarranted self-importance and self-righteousness have more to do with this sort of thing than anything else. Some people spend their lives looking for the next emotional orgasm and this is one of the ways they go about it.
Submarine attacks on the West coast are one thing.
Bringing the men, equipment, supplies, and ships across the Pacific and landing on the West coast againts well defended beaches and sustaining them against bitter opposition is another.
Remember, Japan did not have enough merchant ships to feed itself, let alone sustain an invasion of the United States.
The below is about Hawaii, not the West coast, but the point remains:
http://www.combinedfleet.com/pearlops.htm
The Japanese imprisoned and killed American civilians in the Philippines. The Japanese never apologized to or compensated those who survived.
I said the IDEA was very real. In hindsight it looks different. We didn’t think they could attack Pearl Harbor either.
America was and is better than Imperial Japan. We have the Constitution. We don’t put American citizens in camps. Hawaii which was attacked by the Japanese did not intern any of its citizen regardless of ancestry. My only point it the original post was that the current folks of Japanese heritage are making a mistake hooking their wagon to the open border crowd. In one case America imprisoned its own citizens in the other case America is defending itself against a wave of non citizens.
and our damn government let the jap war criminals off, even those sentenced to death were let go and allowed to live normal lives, even start huge companies that we trade with to this day.
I have no sympathy for or respect for japan or its citizens.
And of course the Constitution is not a suicide pact.
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