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Richmond-based federal appeals court finds Trump Muslim travel ban unconstitutional - again
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | February 15, 2018 | Frank Green

Posted on 02/15/2018 11:52:32 AM PST by EdnaMode

A divided 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday held as unconstitutional President Donald Trump's anti-terrorist travel ban from eight countries, six of them majority-Muslim with a total population of 150 million.

In a 9-4 vote, the Richmond-based court upheld a Maryland district judge's preliminary injunction against the ban taking full effect and ruled that the travel restrictions violate the Constitution's Establishment Clause, which bars the government establishment of a religion.

“In sum, the face of the Proclamation, read in the context of President Trump’s official statements, fails to demonstrate a primarily secular purpose. To the objective observer, the Proclamation continues to exhibit a primarily religious anti-Muslim objective,” says the majority opinion.

The court stayed its decision pending the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in a Hawaii case. Last May, the Richmond-based court upheld an injunction against that version of the travel ban in a 10-3 vote.

Carl Tobias, a professor at the University of Richmond School of Law, said it appears the U.S. Supreme Court may combine this case with one from Hawaii in which a judge ruled against the ban in a decision affirmed by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The 9th Circuit found the new restrictions failed on statutory grounds, while the 4th Circuit found it violated the Constitution.

Cecillia Wang, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union who argued the case before the appeals court in December, said in a statement Thursday that, “We will continue this litigation until the Muslim ban is ended once and for all.”

“The Constitution prohibits government actions hostile to a religion," she said.

The new restrictions are aimed at immigrants and visitors from Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen, all majority Muslim, as well as North Korea and some Venezuelan officials.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 4thcircuit; 4thcircus; aclu; aliens; bordersecurity; richmond; travelban; trump; trumptravelban
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To: ManHunter
Time to impeach some federal judges; it’s been a while.

Checking the House's agenda, I don't see any. Don't hold your breath waiting for it either...
41 posted on 02/15/2018 1:09:29 PM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: gathersnomoss
"So, America is now run by the courts? Ah, who needs The Constitution anyway?"

Yeah. Sad. Why do we even have elections anymore? Look at what judges did to California.

Someday, someone is going to have to stand up to them and just say NO.
 

42 posted on 02/15/2018 1:10:03 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (CNN is fake news.)
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To: jimjohn

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The solution is for the Executive Branch to stop going to the appeals court, and just ignore them as the Supreme Court has ruled overwhelmingly - twice.
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No, the solution is to use the bully pulpit to relentlessly pound and pressure Congress to do ITS F* job and start impeaching judges for activism and violating their oath of office.


43 posted on 02/15/2018 1:11:05 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Someday, someone is going to have to stand up to them and just say NO.

Things are no where near bad enough for enough folks to do that.
44 posted on 02/15/2018 1:11:37 PM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: EdnaMode

Where the hell in the Constitution does it say that Americans cannot prevent being overrun by terrorists? I must have missed that. BTW: Has Virginia legalized marijuana or are these activist, liberal “judges” just brainless morons?


45 posted on 02/15/2018 1:12:48 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: NorthMountain

Fake judges. They have to be because they sure don’t rule on law. They are merely political operatives in robes.


46 posted on 02/15/2018 1:14:06 PM PST by blackdog
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To: EdnaMode

[In a 9-4 vote, the Richmond-based court upheld a Maryland district judge’s preliminary injunction against the ban taking full effect and ruled that the travel restrictions violate the Constitution’s Establishment Clause, which bars the government establishment of a religion.]

Talk about reaching. What an embarrassment.


47 posted on 02/15/2018 1:19:52 PM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: i_robot73

I agree. There was also suggestions on other threads imagining what if patriots began um..m having meetings with certain judges and ah... convincing them to retire from the bench?

Not what I’m saying of course, but I’ve read it elsewhere.


48 posted on 02/15/2018 1:20:13 PM PST by jimjohn (2nd American Civil War: ongoing since January 20, 2017.)
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To: dforest

Agreed. These judges have way too much power.


49 posted on 02/15/2018 1:26:59 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: gathersnomoss

I’m in Virginia too.


50 posted on 02/15/2018 1:33:06 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode
Richmond-based federal appeals court finds Trump Muslim travel ban unconstitutional - again

Which nations Constitution are they referring to,certainly not the USA.

51 posted on 02/15/2018 1:47:30 PM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: EdnaMode

These scumbag judges apparently believe that they are above the law and can override our country’s laws, the Supreme Court and the President of the United States of America.


52 posted on 02/15/2018 1:56:49 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: EdnaMode

These stinkin’ judges belong in jail. All of them!


53 posted on 02/15/2018 2:38:12 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (No DACA Caca....Send the Nightmares home. "Americans are Dreamers, too." President Trump)
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To: EdnaMode

Why is there no penalty when these baboso judges are obvious stoopids?
This too will be overturned making this jurist to look the fool.
Course said baboso is a fool


54 posted on 02/15/2018 3:14:31 PM PST by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Vince Ferrer; raiderboy
With all of the Democrats and most of the Rinos wanting to impeach Trump, Trump does not need to start ignoring court rulings.

Trump needs to continue doing what he is doing.


55 posted on 02/15/2018 3:36:31 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: EdnaMode
Let's look at the judicial aspect:

<>The Maryland ruling was made by U.S. District Judge Theodore D. Chuang. Like Watson, he determined that Trump's executive order was "the realization of the long-envisioned Muslim ban" and also pointed to comments made by Trump throughout his campaign.

In the Hawaii ruling, U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson issued a nationwide halt to the ban that would have barred new visas and prevented the admission of new refugees. It was a stinging rebuke of Trump's second attempt to institute the controversial order just hours before it was to take effect.

  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/16/
trump-travel-ban-targeting-muslim-countries/99244568/


56 posted on 02/15/2018 3:55:31 PM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: ptsal; All; Liz; LucyT; bitt; HarleyLady27; generally; ransomnote; Ann Archy

See #56


57 posted on 02/15/2018 3:57:11 PM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: DannyTN

i agree totally. Trump is doing great. If he stays away from ivanka and the kurshner clutz he may make it!! But we dont need the maudlin “do good{ crap!!


58 posted on 02/15/2018 4:38:53 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJTwe hav)
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To: ptsal; Republicanprofessor; null and void; aragorn; Art in Idaho; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; ..

PING

To #56.

Thanks, ptsal.


59 posted on 02/15/2018 7:11:15 PM PST by LucyT (A preposition is something you shouldn't end a sentence with...)
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To: i_robot73

You blurt this impeach nonsense as it’s just so easy. It takes what 3/4 of the Senate to impeach a judge?

Good luck with that, it’ll never happen so let’s save the comment and revert to yes Trump should ignore these rulings and go to the mic and actually proclaim it


60 posted on 02/15/2018 7:12:39 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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