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To: nickcarraway

So strangers should just ignore kids who look like they may be mistreated because, maybe, just maybe they might be autistic.

Sorry I think the parents here are way too sensative..


3 posted on 02/12/2018 11:36:46 AM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: Kozak

Were there bruises.

I have a policy:

They are not my kids. Unless there are signs of obvious abuse and neglect (obviously SERIOUSLY malnurished and/or suspicious - as opposed to normal kid type - bruises), it’s none of my &#$*#&@ business!


7 posted on 02/12/2018 11:40:33 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Kozak

I agree 100%. Cops were called to investigate the well-being of a child. They had a short, polite exchange with parents. End of story.


9 posted on 02/12/2018 11:43:33 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Kozak
Sorry I think the parents here are way too sensative..

You try dealing with autism ... or retardation ... or some other mental illness/disability 24/7/365.

17 posted on 02/12/2018 11:50:43 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Kozak

I agree. The cops were just doing their job. And did it well. And the other parents acted out of good faith with limited information.


22 posted on 02/12/2018 11:54:49 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Kozak

Agree


25 posted on 02/12/2018 11:56:05 AM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: Kozak

Messy hair does NOT indicate “mistreatment”!!!

Sorry, I think YOU are way too budinski!


30 posted on 02/12/2018 11:59:24 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Kozak

I agree. The people who called probably were not thinking of Autism. They likely did not call just because the hair was messy and the pants too short. They may have observed that the parents were not interacting with their son as much as expected when families are together at a park. People just don’t think neglect because of hair and pants. They had no way of knowing about Autism. I think the police handled this very well. I think the parents should be happy that there was someone observant enough to be worried that something might be wrong and cared enough to call.


35 posted on 02/12/2018 12:05:46 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Kozak

We homeschooled our kids with powerful academic success. Hardly a day went by that my wife wasn’t questioned by strangers because the kids were out and about during school hours. As far as I am concerned people can mind their own damn business. Fortunately my wife handled those circumstances and not me. As you may well imagine. The world is full of useless busybodies. It most certainly does NOT require a whole village of idiots to raise a child.


36 posted on 02/12/2018 12:05:47 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: Kozak

I have a daughter who has a brain injury. She was 5 before she could talk. When she first started talking we gave her whatever she asked for.

Well, that just couldn’t be sustained and she had a meltdown when I said no to getting her a sida. I disn’t have money for it.


41 posted on 02/12/2018 12:12:57 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Kozak

I have a severely autistic, non-verbal, self-injurious, 8-year-old daughter, and face many of the same issues.

Once, a young girl, probably about 12 years old, modeled for me what I think every ADULT should do when they see a parent in public with a child like this, and they have some concerns.

She didn’t call the police, she didn’t stay at a distance and give me a dirty look. She came over and talked to me and asked questions like - “Is she your daughter” and asked my daughter “Are you okay”?

Another great example was in a supermarket during a meltdown at an auto checkout and someone came over and offered to bag my groceries while I got her under control.

So yes, there are much better things to do then call the police ... it’s called getting involved personally and being a good neighbor, asking questions directly if you’re concerned and then offering help if you can, as these two Good Samaritans did.

It’d be a much better world all around if folks could follow those examples in situations like the one described in this post. For example, one could have walked over and said something like - “Pardon me, I’m just concerned about your child, is everything okay?” And then upon hearing about his condition, one could make a more informed decision as to whether any outside authorities needed to be involved.

Sure, one encounter with the police may not seem that troublesome - but just think about the added stress to these families caused by multiple such encounters that occur simply because they choose (as they should) to NOT cloister their special child in their homes, but try to help them learn to engage in public by bringing them to shops and parks, etc. So I implore everyone reading this to think about that before taking the easy way out by calling the police every time over the slightest concerns in these situations.


44 posted on 02/12/2018 12:15:38 PM PST by zencycler
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To: Kozak

“I think the parents here are way too sensative..”

Here is the problem, if your kid is a paraplegic, it’s obvious to everyone who sees him what “his problem” is.

No so for kids with autism (kids ‘on the spectrum’).

Ponder these:
- dealing with the fact that family & friends can no longer “put up with” your son’s emotional outbursts at a restaurant or other family event.
- wouldn’t it be nice if your family could all go to church together?
- wouldn’t it be nice if you could have a baby-sitter who didn’t mind getting beat-up by your son, or one who didn’t mind when your son breaks their things, or pees on the floor when the sitter is around.
- etc. etc.

But yeah, we tend to be sensitive to “the looks”.

Let me know when you’ve walked a mile in shoes like ours...


51 posted on 02/12/2018 12:30:07 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Kozak
So strangers should just ignore kids who look like they may be mistreated because, maybe, just maybe they might be autistic.

Sorry I think the parents here are way too sensative..


Messy hair is not a reason to call the cops. Whoever the busybodies were that called the cops, they could have walked over to the parents and asked if everything was okay and said they were concerned about the hair (or whatever the issue is) - many parents of autistic kids will give a satisfactory explanation.

Those parents are not too sensitive - they are probably very aware that if you get a cop who is having a bad day, he can escalate a situation to the point where CPS is involved and that child is removed from the parents and is traumatized. Those parents were extremely lucky to get the cops they did.

I was blessed with three very healthy children, and was not aware of the whole autistic thing outside of the Rainman movie, until my niece had a son who is autistic.

The first time I witnessed a meltdown of my grand-nephew, I was caught off guard. It was in a store, it happened so fast, I'm not sure what caused it. The amount of patience and understanding I witnessed in my niece was stunning.

I began to realize that while parents of other kids can think about what's going on a week, a month, a year down the road, parents of autistic kids are sometimes praying to just get through a single day without any serious issues.

When my grandnephew had that meltdown, I recognized the glares and stares that other people made towards my niece.

It was the same look I've had on my face at various times in my life, when I witnessed a kid screaming in a store or thrashing about in the arms of a parent taking them out of a store. More than once I muttered under my breath that the kid just needed a good spanking. Not a very Christian thing to do - the parents did not deserve me glaring at them - they did not ask for that situation to happen.

While I'm sure some of those kids were being raised poorly and/or were spoiled, I wish now that I could go back to those parents of autistic kids, apologize for glaring, and ask them if they needed any help, and tell them that I'll say a prayer for them.
53 posted on 02/12/2018 12:31:05 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Kozak
Sorry I think the parents here are way too sensative..

sorry Kozak but you're wrong, DEAD WRONG......

So sorry that you just don't get it..........

It says that we are increasingly convinced that it is up to every onlooker to assume abuse rather than to give parents the benefit of the doubt when anything, even a child's hair, seems amiss—that this is good citizenship.

69 posted on 02/12/2018 2:14:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Kozak

I am 66 years old and have never called the cops on anyone.
I love freedom.
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p.s. Your “about” page is a hot mess.


78 posted on 02/12/2018 2:49:12 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Kozak
Sorry I think the parents here are way too sensative..

From the article:

It's abundantly less likely that they are monstrous abusers who are taking their victims out for a day of fun, in public, at the park.

As a parent of a couple of kids on the spectrum, I'm thankful that this has not happened to us. It could have, though.

So--since you know nothing about the subject of raising autistic kids, keep your ill-informed opinions to yourself.

85 posted on 02/12/2018 3:58:18 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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