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APA Tells Psychiatrists: Stop Analyzing Trump With 'Armchair Psychiatry'
NEWSMAX ^ | SUNDAY, JANUARY, 14, 2018 | By Wanda Carruthers

Posted on 01/15/2018 5:23:07 PM PST by onyx

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To: onyx
I did the same as DrO. Quit the APA in the 80s and yes, the “higher up” were all East Coast libs with a few from SF and LA. Most of the conservative psychiatrists were from the midwest and south. Surprise. LOL. Don't know about the current APA but I think they got this press release right.
42 posted on 01/15/2018 9:29:50 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Lazamataz

>> Finally. Some professional ethics.

Sadly, objectivity has been subordinated to political expediency.

And it would be thoroughly ironic if it’s the likes of the APA to raise us from the collective brink of insanity.


43 posted on 01/15/2018 10:08:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vision Thing

>> Psychiatrists probably vote overwhelmingly democrat, too.

I wouldn’t make that assumption. Psychologists probably.


44 posted on 01/15/2018 10:10:07 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: onyx

>> Of all medical specialties, psychiatrists have the greatest number of suicides

Stress of the job? Doubtful they’re encumbered with conservative clients.


45 posted on 01/15/2018 10:19:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: onyx

I’ve noticed they have a lot of disturbed kids, too.


46 posted on 01/15/2018 11:06:24 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: onyx

He should have included the episode from Madam Secretary Sunday night.


47 posted on 01/16/2018 1:00:49 AM PST by HollyB
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To: onyx

“The Goldwater Rule embodies these concepts and makes it unethical for a psychiatrist to render a professional opinion to the media about a public figure unless the psychiatrist has examined the person and has proper authorization to provide the statement,” said APA CEO and Medical Director Saul Levin, M.D., M.P.A. “APA stands behind this rule.”

https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/apa-calls-for-end-to-armchair-psychiatry


48 posted on 01/16/2018 1:05:25 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Gene Eric



Yes. Thanks for the correction. Psychiatrists <> Psychologists.



49 posted on 01/16/2018 4:42:45 AM PST by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: onyx

I felt compelled to post this:

NHS to Offer Biological Men Cervical Cancer Smear to Avoid ‘Triggering Gender Dysphoria’
January 16, 2018 at 7:43:51 AM CST · by C19fan
Breitbart ^ | January 15, 2018 | Liam Duncan
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50 posted on 01/16/2018 5:46:26 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: tired&retired
another claimed, ‘I believe Goldwater has the same pathological makeup as Hitler, Castro, Stalin, and other known schizophrenic leaders'...

I've read multiple biographies of Hitler and Stalin, and not one of them gave serious credence to any claims that either of them was "schizophrenic". Other mental disorders (sociopath, psychopath, etc) were mentioned as possibly being in place, but not schizophrenia. I have no idea what Castro's problem(s) were, but since he was in power during my lifetime, I saw many interviews and many reports of his behavior, and to me he simply appeared to be evil.

51 posted on 01/16/2018 5:58:20 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Art in Idaho

that is excellent. It has to be completely and ethical and professional to analyze you’re having opinion about anyone that they haven’t seen personally.

There is a poster here, who left during in the primaries, who was supposedly a psychologist and was doing the exact same thing, giving a “professional“ opinion on trump’s mental state. When I pointed out that wasn’t it unprofessional for her to give a “professional“ opinion about someone that she had not even been In the same room with, much less the same state, she backed off. Gave some silly excuse. But I’m pretty sure it didn’t stop her from doing it again.

Trump is doing a good job of exposing the idiots.


52 posted on 01/16/2018 6:16:03 AM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: CottonBall

“It has to be completely and ethical and professional to analyze you’re having opinion about anyone that they haven’t seen personally.”

Note to self, do not call anyone an idiot in a post when you write things like that! Secondly, do not post before coffee.


53 posted on 01/16/2018 6:20:57 AM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: WayneS

I agree with you. The portion you referred to was a cut & paste quote and not my words.


54 posted on 01/16/2018 11:11:25 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: CottonBall

“having opinion about anyone that they haven’t seen personally”

And if you have seen them personally, HIPAA prohibits you from disclosing any patient information.


55 posted on 01/16/2018 11:13:16 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I understand. The quote you posted was from the article. In retrospect, I probably should have posted my comments as a response to Post #1 (the article itself).

I apologize for any misunderstanding.


56 posted on 01/16/2018 11:15:53 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: CottonBall

“supposedly a psychologist”

Bandy Lee is an MD and a psychiatrist. You must be an MD to be a psychiatrist, but MD is not required to be a psychologist,

The APA, American Psychiatric Association establishes ethical guidelines for psychiatrists

The APA, American Psychological Association establishes ethical guidelines for psychologists (which are not as strict as psychiatrists ethics rules)

Honestly, I don’t have the time of day for most psychologists, even if they have a Phd and go by Dr. as they do not have the expertise... and most of them were not smart enough to attend medical school.


57 posted on 01/16/2018 11:19:03 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: WayneS

No problem... My wife is an MD psychiatrist so I attend many programs on this topic.


58 posted on 01/16/2018 11:20:47 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Gene Eric

You don’t want to know about all of their gun control programs at the APA conferences.


59 posted on 01/16/2018 11:23:09 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: onyx

Evidence suggests that doctors are nearly 4X as likely to use drugs as a suicide method in attempt to overdose.

A more unexpected finding concerning physician suicides is that there’s no difference in the rates between male and female doctors. This is surprising because in the general population, men commit suicide at much higher rates than women. For example, in the United States, men commit suicide at nearly 4 times the rate of women, but women constitute about half of all physician suicides.

Suicide Rates

Medical Doctors
Odds: 1.87

Dentists
Odds: 1.67

Police Officers
Odds: 1.54

Veterinarians
Odds: 1.54

Financial Services
Odds: 1.51

Real Estate Agents
Odds: 1.38

Electricians
Odds: 1.36

Lawyers
Odds: 1.33

Here is an interesting article:

Evidence That More Psychiatry Means More Suicide

https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/01/evidence-that-more-psychiatry-means-more-suicide/


60 posted on 01/16/2018 11:34:34 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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