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Unchecked climate change is going to be stupendously expensive
The Week Magazine ^ | January 15, 2018 | by Ryan Cooper

Posted on 01/15/2018 7:38:31 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change is first and foremost a threat to human society.

That fact has been somewhat obscured in regular discourse, in favor of a false dichotomy portraying climate policy as an upper-middle-class noblesse oblige idea for anxious birders and other environmentalist types, and hardheaded economists who think building up yet more wealth is more important.

In reality, one obvious way that threat to humanity is going to be expressed is through economic damage. In other words, unchecked climate change is going to be terrifically expensive.

It drives home the fact that dawdling on climate policy, as Democrats did when they had majorities in 2009-10 — or denying it's even necessary, as virtually every person of consequence in the Republican Party does — is not going to be some profitable venture. Poor countries will be hit worse, but American cities will be wrecked, much critical infrastructure will be destroyed, and many insurance companies and programs will be bankrupted. It will require endless expensive bailouts and reconstruction packages simply to stay ahead of the damage.

Conversely, the faster we move on climate policy, the cheaper it will be. The International Energy Agency has roughly estimated that every year of delay adds $500 billion to the world total of necessary investment to head off climate change. (A stitch in time saves nine, as the saying goes.)

On the most important issue facing humanity, the United States is becoming dangerously close to a rogue state. Let us hope we can soon rejoin the world community and start acting like sensible, moral adults again.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechangefraud; fraud; globalwarming; gorebullwarming; hoax; propaganda; socialism
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Dunno, and don’t even remember where I found it .. lol


61 posted on 01/15/2018 9:01:03 AM PST by tomkat
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To: from occupied ga

Second rule of the Dunning Kruger Club is: You assume everyone else IS......................


62 posted on 01/15/2018 9:01:40 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Only slightly less expensive than CHECKED climate change.


63 posted on 01/15/2018 9:06:05 AM PST by IronJack (A)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For what its worth I read somewhere that the cost of preventing GW would be about 100 X the cost of letting it happen and adapting to it. People dont realize that preventing GW would require eliminating nearly all of the coal fired electricity generating plants and gasoline powered vehicles. That basically sends us back to the 1800’s in standard of living. The thought of doing this based on the recommendation of environmental alarmists who have been right approximately 0% of the time is too stupid to even contemplate.


64 posted on 01/15/2018 9:07:17 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Title correction: Unchecked climate change research and regulations is going to be stupendously expensive.
65 posted on 01/15/2018 9:10:48 AM PST by BipolarBob (At one time I held the world record as the worlds youngest person on the planet.)
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To: tomkat

Found it! A similar pic at least.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0221058/?ref_=tt_cl_i8


66 posted on 01/15/2018 9:12:09 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: UCANSEE2

——There is no doubt that MAN MADE warming is affecting the local weather and therefore climate.-—

It is ???

Please cite one provable
Xample...


67 posted on 01/15/2018 9:12:59 AM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: steve8714

This thread is worthless without pictures...


68 posted on 01/15/2018 9:29:51 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I love it when the left uses lofty prose when speaking of monumentally stupid ideas. Grammar is no substitute for facts, ladies.


69 posted on 01/15/2018 9:35:48 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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To: Red Badger
Second rule of the Dunning Kruger Club is: You assume everyone else IS......................

Unlikely since if you're a tried and true member you don't know enough to realize that there is one.

70 posted on 01/15/2018 9:41:21 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
On the most important issue facing humanity, the United States is becoming dangerously close to a rogue state.

8 years of Obozo and now they are blaming Trump.

These people make me want to vomit.

71 posted on 01/15/2018 9:41:22 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The fakery is what’s been so expensive over the years. I can’t imagine how many billions of dollars were stolen from The American people over this lie.


72 posted on 01/15/2018 9:42:43 AM PST by Trillian
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Yep, definitely the same girl .. good job :-)


73 posted on 01/15/2018 9:47:42 AM PST by tomkat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Mr. Cooper:

Would you rather have the temperature going up or going down? And exactly which past computer model was able to predict future temperatures accurately? Just wondering.


74 posted on 01/15/2018 9:48:23 AM PST by DennisR
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
You mean pictures like this?:

or do you mean pictures like this:


75 posted on 01/15/2018 9:49:02 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: alloysteel

I cheer your post about thorium and the use of smaller thorium reactors, but despite my research I still cannot understand or figure out the apparent lack of research, funding, and fielding of thorium reactors. I believe based on what I have read that thorium is the BEST option for our future electrical needs, but unless we start seeing some actual movement towards it, it appears to be snake oil.

I am in no way disparaging you and I have been just as enthusiastic about thorium based on what I have read, and I have read all the counterpoints, logical explanations (need for nuke weapons), and conspiracy theories for why thorium is not the next big thing (and is the next big thing) in the future. However, consider that all the benefits of thorium would make it a far better option for nuke subs, nuke aircraft carriers, forward operating airbases, etc etc etc.

Probably the wrong thread considering it is another ridiculous AGW prophecy and I am a big believer in technology that will meet a pressing need, but I am starting to have some real questions about thorium. I have believed it was the answer for the last 20 years since I read my first article about it, but why are China, India, the U.S. military, and others not moving forward with the smaller salt reactors yet?

We were told 20 years ago that China was moving forward as was India, but they have not put them into widespread use to my knowledge. We were told 20 years ago that the technology and understanding was available to build them. Where are they? On paper they make a compelling argument for why it is better and I believe it, but we are past the point to see results and see operational reactors - especially in other nations where our EPA and DOE holds no sway nor regulations. France has been quite progressive and innovative with nuclear energy - where are theirs?

What am I missing?


76 posted on 01/15/2018 9:52:14 AM PST by volunbeer ("I will appoint a special prosecutor to look into your (Hillary) situation" - Trump - we are waiting)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Climate change is first and foremost a threat to human society.

These fraudsters just won't give up!

They painted themselves into corner when actual Science facts did not support their vision of historical "climate."
They doubled up when real science invalidated their agenda.

Eventually, they couldn't support their own agenda, so their option was to fake the records by arbitrarily adjusting the historical science data to fit their agenda. Blatantly so.

Then they had the balls to refuse access to the original science data which through a disaster of judgement by someone(s), was entrusted to a university professor with a criminal bent.
He erased the original data (hundreds of years worth,) and refused access by real Scientists to his deletions and additions and considered the matter "proprietary."

The quintessential violation and contradiction of the Scientific Method.

Changing the data to fit a twisted version of reality is simply not nice.

Just Google "East Anglia" + Climate Fraud...

Human Caused Global Warming

77 posted on 01/15/2018 10:04:00 AM PST by publius911 (CBS: "Asking the right questions is 100% of catching sexual abusers")
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To: alloysteel
Almost ever objection to using atomic energy to power our national economy is overcome by using the Thorium-fueled Molten Salt reactors, which in addition to being less dangerous, may be scaled in size and put in closer to point of consumption of power, thus eliminating the vulnerability of widespread grids bringing power from hundreds of miles away.

and losing 50% of the generated power via transmission losses... before getting to the consumers.

78 posted on 01/15/2018 10:08:14 AM PST by publius911 (CBS: "Asking the right questions is 100% of catching sexual abusers")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Unchecked stupidity is stupendously expensive


79 posted on 01/15/2018 10:11:28 AM PST by Rebelbase (1/12/18 read the word 'shithole' more times in one day than in my entire life up to that that point.)
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To: publius911

When I worked in load forecasting we figured 8% transmission loss on average within the system footprint, but of course if you’re shipping it a long way that number goes up.


80 posted on 01/15/2018 10:12:43 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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