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Broke California Looking to Take Money from the Pockets of Retired State Workers
https://www.westernjournal.com ^ | January 11, 2018 at 8:39am | By Jonathan Pincus

Posted on 01/12/2018 6:04:54 PM PST by BackRoads775

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To: morphing libertarian

tiered


61 posted on 01/12/2018 7:56:45 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

OK; I’d rather they spent the $21 billion on the pensions, too.


62 posted on 01/12/2018 7:56:54 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: dfwgator

The truth. Democrats have made California a shithole state.


63 posted on 01/12/2018 7:57:39 PM PST by onedoug
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To: kearnyirish2

they should still change the system for newbies and younger employees. The last three governors ignored this problem.


64 posted on 01/12/2018 7:58:01 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

They ignore it here in NJ as well; just like companies that can’t deal with defined benefits, these governments at all levels have to leave it in the hands of the employees - even if they have to increase the salaries to do so.


65 posted on 01/12/2018 8:02:47 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: morphing libertarian

There’s not a single financial problem in California that can’t be solved by eliminating every illegal.


66 posted on 01/12/2018 8:04:12 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: KevinB

W hen she got older and plumper she looked like she did in hs. She is part Mexican, but it was her German family that contributed greatly to the development of Tucson.


67 posted on 01/12/2018 8:07:23 PM PST by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: morphing libertarian
Even fed-gov employees only get a 401k these days, the time of the fat fed gov pension is long gone.

States should go the same way. Up to the employees to save as they see fit, not just sit back and wait the the big reward if they last that long (with the difficulty firing public employees, little doubt they would not last).

68 posted on 01/12/2018 8:10:19 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: dfwgator

Califithole...


69 posted on 01/12/2018 8:10:37 PM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: KevinB

Plus she’s a raving Liberal, who, a couple of years ago, was walked off the stage of the Las Vegas hotel where she was performing because she went into a political diatribe while on stage. I don’t think she’s working much since then.


70 posted on 01/12/2018 8:13:21 PM PST by vette6387
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To: doorgunner69

That’s what I meant by a tiered system. You don’t change for old people who can’t work. The newbies in employment get the biggest change up to a certain age. You tier a change for new retirees and those within 10 years and do forth.

In California eliminate benefits for illegals (not gonna happen)


71 posted on 01/12/2018 8:14:54 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: vette6387
F*ck is not the word, since it can be very enjoyable for both parties. “Screwed” up the anus and out the navel, as in Vlad, the Impaler, Tepes, is.
72 posted on 01/12/2018 8:15:03 PM PST by libstripper
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To: BackRoads775

ABOUT TIME!


73 posted on 01/12/2018 8:39:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: Chewbarkah
alifornia has the same situation as Greece, wherein public employees (State, Count, Municipal, School, College, Prison Guards, everything else) have enjoyed the redistribution of wealth to themselves from the taxpayers. I doubt the public will shed many tears, and tax themselves anew, if the flow goes the other way.

California has Silicon Valley while Greece has gyros.

74 posted on 01/12/2018 8:42:50 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: morphing libertarian

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2016/11/26/mapping-the-100000-california-public-employee-pensions-at-calpers-costing-taxpayers-3-0b/#741e2ccd3945

“Updated numbers displayed at OpenTheBooks.com show there is a $2.8 billion annual cost to payout 21,862 six-figure public-sector retirees via CalPERS.”


75 posted on 01/12/2018 8:56:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Kozak

What he forgets is that if California were freed of the constraints of the Constitution, they would quickly become a socialist state and industry would flee there as quickly as they could find a place to relocate.


76 posted on 01/12/2018 8:59:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: BackRoads775

As Brown wraps up his final term, the poop is hitting the fan...yeah, we have a little problem...remember all those benefits we promised you?


77 posted on 01/12/2018 8:59:18 PM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The issue at hand is someone said MANY retirees get over 200,000. I am positing that many people make comments here and make up facts or are guessing. i don’t pertend to know the answer and will not post a guess.


78 posted on 01/12/2018 9:01:11 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

Read the article. There ARE many.

“Meanwhile, Riverside County has 461 six-figure retirees and the top 12 retirements each exceed $200,000 per year.”

That’s just one county. And current employees are raking in the dough, too.

“Note: Recently at Forbes, we showcased the 220,000 currently active California public employees making over $100,000 and costing taxpayers $35 billion each year.”


79 posted on 01/12/2018 9:08:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: BackRoads775

Gee, and all these state workers and retirees have been voting Democrat for decades because they really believed the Democrats had their backs.


80 posted on 01/12/2018 9:08:51 PM PST by Angels27
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