Posted on 01/08/2018 9:26:43 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
In the altercation, which occurred shortly after takeoff, the male co-pilot allegedly slapped the aircraft’s female commander, prompting her to leave the cockpit of the Boeing 777 in tears, according to sources for The Times of India.
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Nothing personal Paulie, but I would refrain from generalizing something regarding the reaction of the people to this story and generalizing a breakdown of analysis or logic on FR. While you and I likely agree that is something that is a problem, I don’t think this is an example of it.
In my responses, I have been specifically careful to specify “in the absence of specific circumstances” and I believe others do so without saying. Any reasonable person will agree there could be extenuating circumstances, but not as presented here in any way whatsoever.
Put baldly: What he or she said verbally...there is nothing-NOTHING verbally that can justify a person on a flight deck hitting another person.
There are souls on board who don’t care about the ego, shame, relationships, whatever of flight crew.
The primary responsibility of the flight crew is the safety of the passengers and plane.
Physical assault and slapping a person and risking a donnybrook on a flight deck, regardless of what was said, is complete and utter abdication of everything, moral and professional.
Most of us have made judgments based on a single reported slap. The report doesn’t say she kicked him and he slapped her. It says he slapped her. If other facts come out, people will view it differently, IMO.
I think that is funny, but what if a melee ensued, stainless steel coffepots being smashed against heads, whatever, and they lost control of the aircraft?
I may be mistaken, but I have been told that modern airliners have very narrow flight envelopes in which they can operate safely, and deviating in an abrupt way is problematic from a control perspective.
That is not something that can be risked because some guy’s ego got hurt, or some woman felt justified in smacking the assaulter on the head on the flight deck of an aircraft!
I imagine I am preaching the the choir here...you know what I mean. Even if I do like the visual of a bitten hand...
OMG, I remember seeing that years ago!
Heya TSR, hope you had a great New Year...and a better one in 2018...:)
Anecdotal but about 90 percent of the joggers I see are female.
I think I would agree with that as well, anecdotally, there do appear to be far more female joggers...but when it comes to strength, women can exercise to the pinnacle of what is achievable for them (as some female athletes do) but when they stop exercising, they lose that strength at a faster rate than men do.
Men have a higher base, and due to testosterone, lose it slower. An unfair natural advantage, if you will.
Exactly. Crack his nuts.
shirley there has
That’ll stop any man.
I’m reminded of the comments of that female MMA fighter who fought a tranny: “I’ve never been hit like that!”. Pretty telling coming from someone who gets hit for a living.
The male will be given the full burden of the blame. Picking on the poor, defenseless female.
Was she acting hysterically and he slapped her to try to get her to regain her senses?
Regardless of the crying, if the commander of the flight thought that fighting over the controls was the only alternative to leaving the cockpit and if there was good reason to believe that the co-pilot would land the plane safely, then I would tolerate the tears.
When lives depend on it NOTHING should come before professional duties and obligations.
They both should be canned. Otherwise one walks away believing they are in their right to place their own interests before their duties.
All it takes is one nasty twist or shot to the balls to stun the aggressor. Then a call out to male passengers to help remove him from the cockpit. I am not a short, weak woman and my dad taught me to fight men dirty. I’ve had to fight back two times and I won.
I hope the military has men like my dad teaching females how to fight men. Although it hurts along the way to learning...
Agreed. Frankly, I was disgusted by this lack of gentlemanly behavior and professionalism on his part, and her reaction to it. It is appalling. I believe they will both be grounded, but it is India, one never knows in another country how they will handle it.
For all we know, they might slap him on the wrist and ground her...
You can ask a Singaporean freighter pilot about that!
One has to wonder where all this transsexual stuff is going in sports.
I can easily imagine ESPN making a hero of the first tranny playing in some male league. Heck, they have probably already done it.
The problem is, when both sides fight dirty by default (as is done in actual combat) the woman is going to lose.
One of the problems they found in training troops in WWII is that the average American male had to be trained to overcome that “fighting fair” impulse even when fighting with other men.
Don’t know how it goes these days, but back then it was a problem that had to be overcome for many.
My original post called the co-pilot male.
This article calls the co-pilot female.
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