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When Should You Take Social Security?
Charles Schwab ^ | 12/30/2017 | By ROB WILLIAMS

Posted on 12/31/2017 7:23:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Key Points

When you start receiving full Social Security retirement benefits is a key question for your retirement plans. The first thing to understand is that the concept of “full retirement age” is a moving target that depends on your birth year (see table below).

You can elect to take benefits as early as age 62 (or earlier if you are a survivor of another Social Security claimant or on disability), or wait until as late as age 70. There’s no “correct” claiming age for everybody. But, if you can afford to wait, starting Social Security later than age 62 can pay off over a long retirement.

Here we’ll take a look at some of the rules and guidelines.

What’s full retirement age?

Full retirement age (also known as normal retirement age) is when you’re eligible to receive full Social Security benefits. The full retirement age used to be 65 for everyone. That has changed.

Under current law, if you were born in 1951 or later, your full retirement age is now some point after age 65—all the way up to age 67 for those born after 1959. If you were born before 1951, you’ve already reached age 66 and full retirement age.

Retirement ages for full Social Security benefits

If you were born in ... Your full retirement age is ...
1950 or earlier You’ve already hit full retirement age
1951-1954 66
1955 66 and 2 months
1956 66 and 4 months
1957 66 and 6 months
1958 66 and 8 months
1959 66 and 10 months
1960 or later 67

Your full benefit is reduced if you take Social Security early...

If you choose to start receiving your Social Security check up to 36 months before your full retirement age, be aware that your benefit is permanently reduced by five-ninths of 1% for each month. If you start more than 36 months before your full retirement age, the benefit is further reduced by five-twelfths of 1% per month, for the rest of retirement.

For example, if your full retirement age is 66 and you elect to start benefits at age 62, the reduced benefit calculation is based on 48 months. This means that the reduction for the first 36 months is 20% (five-ninths of 1% times 36) and 5% (five-twelfths of 1% times 12) for the remaining 12 months. Overall, your benefits would be permanently reduced by 25%.

Source: ssa.gov

... and you’ll get credit for delaying

If you retire sometime between your full retirement age and age 70, you typically get a credit. For example, say you were born in 1951 and your full retirement age is 66. If you started your benefits at age 68, you would receive a credit of 8% per year multiplied by two (the number of years you waited). This makes your benefit 16% higher than the amount you would have received at age 66.

That higher baseline lasts for the rest of your retirement, and serves as the basis for future increases linked to inflation. While it’s important to consider your personal circumstances—it’s not always possible to wait, particularly if you are in poor health or can’t afford to delay—the benefits of waiting can be significant.

Source: ssa.gov.


To review your situation, your annual Social Security statement will list your projected benefits at age 62, full retirement age, and age 70. If you need a copy of your annual statement, you can request one from the Social Security Administration (SSA).

If you feel like it will be difficult to wait, you’re not alone. Even though many people in good health would probably be better off in the long term by delaying benefits, more than two-thirds of eligible workers take Social Security early.1

Factors to consider

Consider the following factors as you decide when to take Social Security.

1. Your cash needs. If you’re contemplating early retirement and you have sufficient resources (adequate investments, a traditional pension, other sources of income), you can be flexible about when to take Social Security benefits. However, if you’ll need your Social Security benefits to make ends meet, you may have fewer options. If possible, you may want to consider postponing retirement or work part-time until you reach your full retirement age—or even longer so that you can maximize your benefits.

2. Your life expectancy and break-even age. Taking Social Security early reduces your benefits, but you’ll also receive monthly checks for a longer time. On the other hand, taking Social Security later results in fewer checks during your lifetime, but the credit for waiting means each check will be larger.

At what age will you break even and begin to come out ahead if you delay Social Security? The break-even age depends on the amount of your benefits and the assumptions you use to account for taxes and the opportunity cost of waiting (investment returns you could have made, inflation, etc.).

The SSA has several handy calculators you can use to estimate your own benefits. For example, if you’re a top wage earner turning 62 this year, then your break-even ages are as follows:

Monthly Social Security benefits

Retirement age

Break-even age

$2,102

62 vs. 66

Between 77 and 78

$2,806

62 vs. 70

Between 80 and 81

$3,721

66 vs. 70

Between 82 and 83


In this example, if you wait until age 66 to take Social Security instead of taking it at age 62, you’ll come out ahead as long as you live to at least age 77-78. The break-even age goes up the longer you wait. See the graph below for an illustration of sample break-even points.

Source: Estimates based on data from ssa.gov, shown in today’s dollars, using SSA’s Quick Calculator as of 10/31/2017 for a person born 5/1/1954, with earned income equal to or greater than the maximum Social Security wage base. The SAA calculator and table above does not include a cost of living adjustment. The chart above includes 2% annual cost of living adjustment to include that in the break-even calculation. Time value of money is not considered in the example.

Theoretically, it shouldn’t matter when you start to receive your checks, provided you have an average life expectancy. However, if you think you’ll beat the average life expectancy, then waiting for a larger monthly check might be a good deal. On the other hand, if you’re in poor health or have reason to believe you won’t beat the average life expectancy, you might decide to take what you can while you can.

While it may be tempting to look only at your break-even point and think about Social Security as a math equation or an investment decision, another approach may be to think about Social Security as a form of insurance.

Unlike conventional investments, Social Security isn’t affected by stock market changes, provides protection against inflation and is designed to pay out no matter how long you live. Social Security also provides guaranteed, inflation-adjusted income—which can be expensive and difficult to replicate with investments.

A quick note about life expectancy: According to the Social Security Administration, average life expectancy for a 65-year-old male is 84.3 years and 86.6 for females. Married individuals tend to live even longer, with a greater than average probability of at least one spouse living to age 90. To compute your own life expectancy, use the life expectancy calculator at SSA.gov.


Remember, though, that the average is just that—an average. If you have a shorter life expectancy than average, then early withdrawals might be a better option for you. If you don’t, starting Social Security later can be particularly beneficial if you live longer than average.

3. Your spouse. If you have a spouse covered by Social Security, you can explore additional strategies to maximize the benefits you receive between you. Start by taking your spouse’s age, health, and benefits into account, particularly if you’re the higher-earning spouse. The amount of survivor benefits for a lower-earning spouse could depend on the deceased, higher-earning spouse’s benefit—the bigger the higher-earning spouse’s benefit, the bigger the benefit for the surviving spouse.

Strategies for married couples

For spouses with equivalent work histories and life expectancy, it may make sense for both of them to delay their benefits up to age 70, if possible. In other cases, especially when there are material differences in work history, it might make sense for the lower-earning spouse to file earlier while the higher earner waits until age 70. This is called a 62/70 split strategy.

62/70 split strategy

With this strategy, the lower earner files early at age 62 (or at full retirement age) based on his or her own benefit. The higher earner later files at age 70.

When a lower-earning spouse files for benefits at age 62, the benefits are reduced based on the number of months before full retirement age.

Even though an early-filing penalty would still apply to any benefits the lower-earning spouse received before full retirement age (whether they’re calculated based on that spouse’s own earnings record or the higher-earning spouse’s record), in the event of the spouse’s death, the surviving spouse would be entitled to their own, or their spouse’s benefit, whichever is higher. In the meantime, the lower earner can still collect something while the higher earner waits until age 70 for their maximum benefit.

In the past, couples were allowed to use a strategy called “file and suspend,” under which the higher-earning spouse would file and suspend their benefit at full retirement age, and then wait until age 70 to start collecting, so their partner could claim a spousal benefit. However, that strategy is no longer permitted.

In addition, unless you turned 62 before Jan. 1, 2016, you can no longer file a “restricted application” to claim a spousal benefit. If you are grandfathered into this option, however, you can still consider it. Here’s how it works: At full retirement age the lower earner could file for his or her own benefit, while the higher earner would file a restricted application for spousal benefits. The higher earner would then wait until age 70 to switch to his or her own benefit, at which time the lower earner would switch to a spousal benefit, if higher than their own.

The process of trying to optimize your Social Security benefits over a joint lifespan can be complex. Talk with an advisor (such as a Schwab Financial Consultant) to provide an assessment and help with options.

4. Whether you’re still working. Earning a wage (or even self-employment income) can reduce your benefit temporarily if you take Social Security early. If you’re still working and you haven’t reached your full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for every $2 you earn above the annual limit ($16,920 in 2017).

The reduction falls to $1 in benefits deducted for every $3 you earn above a higher limit ($44,880 in 2017), deducted only for income earned before the month you reach your full retirement age in the year you reach your full retirement age. Starting the month you hit your full retirement age, your benefits are no longer reduced no matter how much you earn.

Again, any reduction in benefits due to the earnings test is only temporary. You receive the money back in the form of a higher benefit at full retirement age, so don’t use the reduction as the sole reason to cut back on working or worrying about earning too much.

Taxes on Social Security

Keep in mind that Social Security benefits may be taxable, depending on your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI), also known as “provisional” income. Your provisional income is equal to your adjusted gross income (AGI), plus non-taxable interest payments (e.g. interest payments on tax-exempt municipal bonds), plus half of your Social Security benefit. As your MAGI increases above a certain threshold (from earning a paycheck, for instance), more of your benefit is subject to income tax, up to a maximum of 85%. For help, talk with a CPA or tax professional.

In any case, if you’re still working, you may want to postpone Social Security either until you reach your full retirement age or until your earned income is less than the annual limit. In no situation should you postpone benefits past age 70.

For more information, see the SSA publication How Work Affects Your Benefits, and IRS Publication 915: Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits.

Changing your mind

If you previously elected to receive early Social Security benefits at a reduced rate, but then change your mind, you have the option of paying back to the government what you’ve already received. After, you could restart benefits later to take advantage of a higher payout. But you can only do this for one year’s worth of benefits.

For example, let’s say you elected to receive early benefits at age 62, but then decided to go back to work at age 63. You could stop receiving Social Security, pay back the years’ worth of benefits you received, go back to work, and then wait until a later age to restart your benefit checks at a higher level.

For important details about repaying benefits please read the SSA publication If You Change Your Mind.

What about the future of Social Security?

Are you skeptical about the future of Social Security or wary of potential changes such as means testing—which could reduce or eliminate benefits for the wealthy—or an increase in the full retirement age? If so, you may be tempted to start benefits early, under the assumption that it’s better to have a bird in the hand than nothing.

The 2017 annual report from the Social Security Trustees projects that the Social Security Trust Fund has enough resources to cover all promised retirement benefits until 2035 without changing the current system. Over the longer term, changes such as later benefit dates or means testing (a reduction in benefits based on your other income sources) may be considered.

In any situation, if you’re particularly concerned about the future prospects for Social Security, that’s a good reason to save more, earlier, for your retirement.

To wait or not to wait? That is the question

Consider taking benefits earlier if … Consider waiting to take benefits if …
You are no longer working and can’t make ends meet without your benefits. You are still working and make enough to impact the taxability of your benefits. (At least wait until your normal retirement age so benefits aren’t further reduced due to earnings.)
You are in poor health and don’t expect to make it to average life expectancy. You are in good health and expect to exceed average life expectancy.
You are the lower-earning spouse and your higher-earning spouse can wait to file for a higher benefit. You are the higher-earning spouse and want to be sure your surviving spouse receives the highest possible benefit.


The bottom line

If you have a choice and are in good health, think seriously about waiting as long as you can to take your benefits (but no later than age 70). For retirees in good health, a long retirement, coupled with uncertainty about markets and inflation, are the biggest risks. Delaying Social Security, if you can, is effectively an insurance policy against those challenges.

Your situation may differ, however, and there are many factors to consider. Get help from your financial planner if you need it.

1Source: OASDI (Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance) Monthly Statistics.


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KEYWORDS: retirement; socialsecurity
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To: bankwalker

I think I had it a little wrong. If you were born before 1954 it applies to your spouse who can retire at 62, but it looks like it is going away.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/general/2016/03/18/social-security-news-if-youre-married-heres-how-th.aspx

I just emailed our advisor to find out if this is what he was talking about.


181 posted on 12/31/2017 4:32:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Sequoyah101
Take your SS now.

It's "found" money.

182 posted on 12/31/2017 4:35:02 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: wgmalabama

Well, the legality of it aside there is this:

Have you ever heard that LBJ began spending the SS funds and that it had been exhausted by early in Reagan’s time?

Well, it’s both true AND false.

It’s “true” because LBJ did start spending something and that something did in fact fun out early in Reagan’s time; however, it is false because there had never been a trust fund in the first place, the money in excess of pay outs had always been turned over to Congress and promptly spent.

What followed, an FDR era deception, is that the government pretended that the same entity could both own a debt (counting it an asset) and owe it as well: they kept two sets of books.

The very sort of thing the government will throw you or I in jail for. They may even just take our stuff via civil forfeiture by alleging we’ve not been paying or reporting taxes (and we have no due process, no assumption of innocence).

I will hear say that I believe that Social Security was, no matter how it was sold, ultimately so Congress could have money to spend. It was about growing government.

So LBJ’s corruption that I’ll here propose isn’t really out of line with FDR’s, only LBJ found a new even more corrupt twist.

If I understand it correctly, on the surface what LBJ did might seem a reform: he and Congress stopped the double books, the money was turned over to Congress to spend and all was counted a liability. These were unsecured promissory notes.

He didn’t stop there. What he did, indeed the only thing he could have done, was to basically lay hold of the book of “assets”, completely ignoring the matching liabilities that negated them, and started creating money out of nothing based on them. Poetically we might say he was spending the money twice.

It is perchance not a coincidence that about this time that inflation began to creep upwards and it remained high until about the time this corrupt expansion of the money supply stopped, and it has remained low ever since.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.


183 posted on 12/31/2017 4:40:25 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thanks E.


184 posted on 12/31/2017 4:40:39 PM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: wgmalabama

“run out” ... I hate typos.


185 posted on 12/31/2017 4:43:18 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: CurlyDave
Anyone who has even a little education in finance knows about the “time value of money”. A simple concept that a dollar today is worth more than a dollar a year from today. For secure transactions it usually shows up as an interest rate.

The break-even tables are calculated ignoring the time value of money, almost as if the government skipped class that day. But, if I am even one day late paying them a tax, that department knows all about the time value of money and I am charged interest for making a late payment.

If one accounts for any realistic interest rate, the break even dates get later and later...

They explain that away by pointing to the cost of living (COLA) adjustments made to SSA payments. That makes up for part, but not all, of the time value you mention.

186 posted on 12/31/2017 4:47:47 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: FrdmLvr

What did you do about health insurance ?

What plans did you sign up for?


187 posted on 12/31/2017 4:48:13 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: alexander_busek

Oh Alex, I missed this last incomprehensible clouded diatribe. I’m not usually in the habit of addressing opaque Poindexters. But to answer your inquiry, no I don’t sell used cars. But I wouldn’t be ashamed if I did, I don’t look down on those that do. I guess the fact you find disdain in that or any that don’t rise to the level of your lofty delusions, says a lot about you.

You’ll forgive me if I don’t attempt to live up to your expectations. After all, any that would throw around statements such as “logical argumentation could be tighter” must be really smart. Or that few so clueless who continually heap their insecurities on all, waiting desperately with clutched white knuckles for affirmation that never meet expectations.

A street performer of sorts in the scheme of things. Staring angrily into the worn hat of meager change. Those foolish pedestrian peasants that don’t see your brilliance. And you, never realizing it was never there. That pretentiousness doesn’t greet admiration ever, only rolled eyes and conclusions cemented correct well beyond a second look.


188 posted on 12/31/2017 5:00:26 PM PST by Eagles Field
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To: Bonemaker

I’ve been asking the early-retirers what do they do for health insurance.

What did y’all do?


189 posted on 12/31/2017 5:08:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: HotHunt

Pretty much as I see it. No need to wait on it.

My wife tuns 62 in late Feb. so I’ll probably move from there.


190 posted on 12/31/2017 5:11:16 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

That was beautiful.


191 posted on 12/31/2017 5:12:30 PM PST by Eagles Field
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To: HotHunt

What did you do for health insurance between 62 & 65?


192 posted on 12/31/2017 5:17:49 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Did you get retirement health coverage thru your employer ?


193 posted on 12/31/2017 5:22:10 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

I am one of the federal retiree scum. Had my fed insurance until 65 then medicare. Also am military retired and got Tricare For Life. Magnificent system and wish everyone could have it. By the way, I planned that out in my 20’s and when I started out with feds it was actually an honorable way to go. Today it is a scam on the taxpayers.


194 posted on 12/31/2017 5:25:50 PM PST by Bonemaker
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To: WASCWatch

Since you took social security at 62, what health insurance did you use?


195 posted on 12/31/2017 5:27:18 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: PapaBear3625
Not if you earn less than $17K a year. The deduction in benefits comes after that. I’m 63 and started drawing SS in November.

Not sure if this has been covered, but my 15 YO son qualified for a dependent care benefit, 1/2 of my benefit until he graduates from HS. That same month I reach full retirement age, the earnings limitation goes away.

I paid into SS for over 40 years. Thanks to that and my 401k, I can do what I want to do.

I’m 63, and both grandfathers and my dad all passed away before their 60th birthdays. The decision was easy.

196 posted on 12/31/2017 5:37:01 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: WildHighlander57
What did you do for health insurance between 62 & 65?

I'm not the one you posted to but here's our situation. My husband took SS at 62, both parents died at 60 so he thought he'd better take it while he can. He is 65 and in great health now.

In our case, I was working and had insurance that covered him till he was 65 at $250 a month. Or in a case where health insurance cannot be provided by a spouse, you could consider on working your income to be low enough to qualify for obamacare, if it's low enough - you can get the silver plan free. Since we moved and I went to work part time, that's what I've done with insurance since my job doesn't cover insurance for part time.

197 posted on 12/31/2017 5:43:57 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: WildHighlander57
I'm retired Army, have Tricare.

However, last week I had sinus issues, went to the hospital seeing an ENT, was prescribed 5 medications for 10 days, cost was $60 without insurance. So not a big issue here.

198 posted on 12/31/2017 5:44:32 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Vietnam vet. I go to the VA. Great care.


199 posted on 12/31/2017 5:50:37 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: WildHighlander57

I go to the VA. Great care.


200 posted on 12/31/2017 5:52:07 PM PST by HotHunt
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