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A War Trump Won
NYT ^ | 17 Dec 2017 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 12/17/2017 2:40:17 PM PST by mandaladon

There is nothing more characteristic of the Trump era, with its fire hose of misinformation, scandal and hyperbole, than that America and its allies recently managed to win a war that just two years ago consumed headlines and dominated political debate and helped Donald Trump himself get elected president — and somehow nobody seemed to notice.

I mean the war against the Islamic State, whose expansion was the defining foreign policy calamity of Barack Obama’s second term, whose executions of Americans made the U.S.A. look impotent and whose utopian experiment drew volunteers drunk on world-historical ambitions and metaphysical dreams. Its defeat was begun under Obama, and the hardest fighting has been done by Iraqis — but this was an American war too, and we succeeded without massive infusions of ground troops, without accidentally getting into a war with Russia, and without inspiring a huge wave of terrorism in the West.

Why haven’t we noticed this success? One reason is the nature of our victory: As Max Abrahms and John Glaser wrote recently in the Los Angeles Times, the defeat of the Islamic State didn’t happen the way many foreign policy hawks envisioned, because it didn’t require also going to war with Bashar al-Assad or creating a new Syrian opposition army. At the same time, it happened more easily than intervention skeptics feared — so there isn’t a pundit chorus, right or left, ready to claim vindication in the victory.

Other reasons for the lack of attention are suggested by National Review’s David French, in a piece that helped inspire this one: a war-weary assumption that if you crush one terrorist group another just springs up (true to a point, but crushing an ambitious terrorist state is still a real achievement); a popular appetite for bad news

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: begrudging; daesh; douthat; fakenews; fourth100days; iran; iraq; isil; isis; islamicstate; jvteam; newyorkslimes; nyslimes; obama; obamalegacy; rop; soyboy; trump; trumpgwot; winning
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To: mandaladon
Douthat is a Slimes columnist, often mistaken for a conservative because at the Slimes, someone even centrist looks like a right winger.
21 posted on 12/17/2017 5:51:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: mandaladon
...America and its allies recently managed to win a war that just two years ago consumed headlines and dominated political debate and helped Donald Trump himself get elected president — and somehow nobody seemed to notice.

I mean the war against the Islamic State...

This would be inconvenient for them to admit and would directly disrespect their anointed one, obozo.

22 posted on 12/17/2017 6:01:51 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: be-baw
“Why haven’t we noticed this success?”

Every time I respond to a post in other forums regarding how Trump hasn't had any accomplishments, I make it a point to mention that Trump WON the war against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, and that the other terrorist groups, like Al-Qaeda and the Taliban have been kind of quiet since Trump came into power.
23 posted on 12/17/2017 7:06:01 PM PST by adorno
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To: mandaladon; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

worth reading - he’s eating crow with some snotty remarks on top..


24 posted on 12/17/2017 8:20:55 PM PST by bitt (The first to squeal gets the best deal.)
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To: mandaladon
The ISIS attacks in the U.S. lately have been pretty lame. How about that one dude in NYC a week or so ago that only managed to blow his own testicles off? Weak!


25 posted on 12/17/2017 8:26:28 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: kiryandil

Lol...oldie, but goodie, that applies perfectly to 0bowmao.


26 posted on 12/17/2017 8:32:23 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Cicero

Putin did it.


27 posted on 12/17/2017 8:37:34 PM PST by duckln
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To: mandaladon

28 posted on 12/17/2017 8:43:34 PM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: SamAdams76
The ISIS attacks in the U.S. lately have been pretty lame. How about that one dude in NYC a week or so ago that only managed to blow his own testicles off? Weak!

Look on the bright side. He can identify as transgender. He's halfway there.

29 posted on 12/17/2017 8:46:02 PM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: SamAdams76
only managed to blow his own testicles off

Some pretty precision handiwork there, how it sounds.

30 posted on 12/17/2017 8:50:30 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: mandaladon

The d=fact is that the leftist press has ignored Trump’s
various successes because he has exceed the leftist imposed quota on how much pu$$y an American president should have.

IF a politician has as much pu$$y ar Trump has had, they need an “excessive pu$$y pass voucher” from the femino-nazi leftists, like the excessive pu$$y vouchers they issued to JFK, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and many others.

So the result is that Trump flaunts his record of conquest and various courting and marriages he has had with beautiful women, including the most beautiful first lady to live in the White House, and the most handsome son.

This drives the leftist femino-nazis crazy, who want to have the power to use sexual politics to pu$$y whip our national electoral process.

Keep up the good work, President Trump!

May you and your gorgeous family continue to flourish in the face of every pu$$y whipper tripper in America and around the World.


31 posted on 12/18/2017 4:05:55 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama Fascism) http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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32 posted on 12/20/2017 2:12:17 PM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: SamAdams76

That’s what we call - Karma.


33 posted on 12/20/2017 4:32:35 PM PST by AFreeBird
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