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To: DoughtyOne

So the President does what? Just signs bills and issues EOs and tweets?

If Trump wants to get his agenda passed he has to persuade Congress to support his agenda. That’s part of a President’s job ... unless he is fine with just signing or not signing whatever RINO crap they send him.

In the end Trump will be judged by his accomplishments. It is in his interest to work with them and cut whatever deals are needed. After all he sold himself as the deal-maker.


49 posted on 12/17/2017 2:24:39 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

If he had a Democrat controlled Capital Hill to deal with, sure. Reagan had to make deals, persuade.

If your own party members don’t have the stones to devise and pass good legislation, all the persuading in the world won’t work.

Cutting back on pork projects and special hidden deals is exactly why we voted this guy into office. Now you want him to offer up pork projects and special deals to persuade.

This isn’t Romney or Rubio.

What would you like him to offer up, no wall and DACA? That’s all Mitch and Ryan are interested in trading.

Your idea of taking Trump to task here is counter productive in nature. You’re asking for something that would go against why we voted for him.

NO!

FAIL!


50 posted on 12/17/2017 2:32:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: plain talk

“President does what? Just signs bills and issues EOs and tweets?”

One way a President forwards his agenda in the long term is through coattails. Trump didn’t have huge coattails in 2016, at least not the kind that resulted in a GOP controlled congress loyal to him and his agenda.

Trump’s victory wasn’t such a huge surprise to me, but it was a surprise to GOP candidates running for the Senate and the House. They were sure he’d lose, so they distanced themselves from him and ran against his agenda.

Reagan, by contrast, had coattails in 1980 and Republicans swept into office knew they had the popularity of Reagan’s message to thank for it. The Republican’s and even many Democrats could see that supporting Reagan was good for their own political prospects. Even so, it wasn’t smooth sailing for RR. For three years, a deep recession made his tax and budget cuts look like a failure. Luckily, the economy kicked in in time to vindicate him and earn him a second landslide victory,

Trump’s case is nearly the exact opposite. The GOP and Dems both turned their back on him and let him go it alone. His success in spite of this has been astounding.

I think he will win reelection handily, but this time, I think the Republicans will wise up and embrace his MAGA movement - and make gains in both houses of congress - but this time it won’t be more RINOs it will be an infusion of new Republicans that actually ran on MAGA and are loyal to Trump. Then he’ll get more accomplished in the second term.


54 posted on 12/17/2017 6:22:28 PM PST by enumerated
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