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To: DoughtyOne

“All Presidents are isolated”

Yep. But there are degrees of being isolated. Just like there are degrees of media bias and anything else you can name. I go back to Barry Goldwater and I have never seen a President this isolated ... especially in their first year.

FWIW by “isolated” I mean Trump has almost no support from his Party. Instead Trump is basically a one-man show with almost no help from other politicians. That was not the case with much of the terms of Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Dubya or Obama.

For whatever reason Trump has not been able to build coalitions and teams of politicians that support the President the way other Presidents have done. Of course not all of this is his fault. The political environment has skewed far left and the Republican Party has completely deteriorated.

Trump can issue EOs and tweets but his success will be limited without support from other politicians. This was demonstrated by the failure to repeal ObamaCare. Sure the RNC is mostly to blame for that but Trump still needs to find a way to cut deals and get their mind right or HIS success will be limited.


43 posted on 12/17/2017 12:28:00 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Okay, what you have just told me is that if you were on Capital Hill, Trump would have to do something to get you to vote for good policy.

McConnell and Ryan trashed Trump from the moment he announced. What chance for outreach was there?

The GOPe was anti-Trump as well.

Let me ask you this, the same folks who came up with plan after plan and passed them when Obama was in office, now can’t come up with a single sound one. Limiting the mortgage deduction was a Conservative idea? Sun-setting the cuts in four or five years was a good idea? Good freakin grief.

The same folks who shot their mouth off about good policy when Obama was in office, now couldn’t find a sound policy if it was glued to their forehead.

While your comments may make sense to you, please explain to me why good policy rests on the president, when we have both houses on Capital Hill. I think you’re kidding yourself why we haven’t seen good bills and more progress.

The powers that be in the Republican Party on Capital Hill don’t want it. End of story.

What deals would you suggest for Trump to propose, to buy Conservative support on Capital Hill? If you were there, what would he have to give you?

If I’m there, I’m busting my ass to get my leaders to step up. Trump would not have to say a word, offer a thing.

I consider another form of isolation to be more important. Does he listen to opposing views? I think he does. I think he comes down on the right side of most things, but he isn’t limiting what voices he hears.

McConnell and Ryan could come to meet with him any time they wanted. That’s called access, and it is NOT AT ALL an indicative of an isolated president.

They have chosen to oppose him rather than implement good policy.

In the history books, Trump will get high marks. In that same book McConnell and Ryan will be revealed to be two of the biggest political clowns in our nation’s history.

The had the majority with a president that would have signed any good legislation they sent him.

They refuse to send him any.

This tax bill is acceptable, but it’s also the only big thing remotely decent. And as I just touched on, they put Leftist crap in there.

These two men are absolutely worthless. With the majority they couldn’t do better than this, and it isn’t passed yet.

Good luck with that now that McCain has skipped town.

Trump is the least of our problems.

McConnell and Ryan have isolated themselves off from Conservatives and good policy. It’s a damned shame too.


44 posted on 12/17/2017 1:07:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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