Posted on 12/13/2017 9:52:34 AM PST by Hojczyk
SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) California is moving closer to charging drivers for every mile they drive.
The state says it needs more money for road repairs, and the gas tax just isnt bringing in enough revenue.
The state recently road-tested a mileage monitoring plan.
The California Road Charge Pilot Program is billed as a way for the state to move from its longstanding pump tax to a system where drivers pay based on their mileage.
But its not just a question about money, its also a question about fairness.
State Senator Scott Wiener and others are saying that when it comes to road taxes, its time to start looking at charging you by the mile rather than by the gallon.
If you own an older vehicle that is fueled by gas, youre paying gas tax to maintain the roads. Someone who has an electric vehicle or a dramatically more fuel efficient vehicle is paying much less than you are. But they are still using the roads, Wiener said.
People are going to use less and less gas in the long run, according to Wiener.
And less gas means less gas tax, and less money for road repair.
We want to make sure that all cars are paying to maintain the roads, Wiener said.
One idea would be installing devices that would clock your mileage every time you pull up to the pump or electric car charging station. Or put a tracker on every car.
The reality is that if you have a smartphone your data of where you are traveling is already in existence, Wiener said.
None of this is sitting well with drivers such as Joshua Li, the owner of a hybrid BMW.
Li said he saves around $200 a month by not using gas
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If you own an older vehicle that is fueled by gas, youre paying gas tax to maintain the roads. Someone who has an electric vehicle or a dramatically more fuel efficient vehicle is paying much less than you are. But they are still using the roads,
Wasn’t that part of the selling point you stupid asshat???
You can tell where a problem really lay because that’s never where the compromises are made. In the case of out of control spending that means the compromises are always on the side of funding. There are very very rarely sunset clauses built into a spending bill, never sunset clauses built into a tax INCREASE, but they sure seem common among tax cuts.
This is part of why I call them “Keystone Keynesians” (as in Keystone Cops): unlike Keynes who called for spending to be countercyclic to the economy all a Keystone Keynesian ever does is increase spending, either because bad times demand it or good times are an opportunity for it.
Yes, and at one point before he went Totally RINO, Gov Snyder in MI at a State of the State address outlined a plan or at least look into this given the advent of Natural Gas as an alternative and other fuels ( even though I think they stink ) such as alcohol, and yes electricity and how would they deal with the loss of gas tax revenues for roads 10 years out....
If my senses are correct and that we are on the cusp of a battery revolution, this issue will be front and center as people rush to get these new cars. How do you deal with the primary revenue stream gone and fund our roads?
For what California Democrats spend on the care and feeding of their illegal voters, they could have gold-plated freeways from Oregon to the Mexican border.
[The state says it needs more money for road repairs, and the gas tax just isnt bringing in enough revenue.]
Because welfare for illegals is getting very expensive. Anybody who believes this will go to road repairs is delusional.
12 cents per gallon? I wish.
In Canada we pay as 45 cents tax per litre. That’s the equivalent of $1.70 tax per US gallon. And yes, every year the politicians want us to pay more.
Ok, here comes the inventive self-analyzing handheld devices that enable the vehicle user to change the mileage and the date stamp.
How do they enforce illegals will pay for this? What about vehicles coming into or through the state?
Actually, the gas tax increase of two months ago equates to 13 cents or more depending upon the county because CA charges sales tax on the Federal and CA gas tax per gallon.
Consider that a large portion of that gas tax increase is going to mass transit. Now, they want a mileage tax. Does that mean they will be reducing the gas tax, and what about the double taxation for those who are driving on toll roads.
Without a doubt Jerry Brown and his band of left wing ding bats are some of the most corrupt politicians in the US. If not for being in my 70s, I would have left this state but if things get much worse, all I can say is, “Arizona, here I come.”
Wasnt that part of the selling point you stupid asshat???
Thanks! Deserves repeating!
Regards,
First, they came for the hybrid owners..................
the revenue - cough - problem is caused by spendthrift politicians and bureaucrats
that is going to be the next big push to go national with it as well- all i nthe name of ‘climate change’
Florida’s gas tax is one of the highest in the country, totaling 36.59 cents per gallon....................
The algorithm they will employ will be able to exactly identify how many miles (or "Mike's," as some people prefer to say) were actually driven within the state.
In fact, they will be able to exactly determine your entire itinerary (latitude and longitude of individual rest-stops, amount of time spent loitering at each rest-stop, etc.).
Isn't high tech combined with the Nanny State amazing?!
Regards,
This on top off the highest gas taxes in the country, which was increased in 2016, and paying extra because of CA special formulation which means CA is isolated from the rest of the US market.
Between state and federal taxes Californians pay close to .90 cents per gallon. The .12 cents was an additional state gas tax hike on top of existing state gas tax that occurred Nov 1st supposedly to pay for road repair.
Well, sure. That goes without saying. I used to live in Illinois.
Forget to add the implicit gas tax from the CA carbon emissions surcharge.
Since more miles driven requires more fuel, drivers are already paying a mileage tax.
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