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The Time Has Come: Higher Ed-a-geddon
americanthinker.com ^ | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 12/11/2017 3:06:20 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: Tax-chick

IMO, Americanthinker is the best opinion site out there.


21 posted on 12/11/2017 4:39:13 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Higher” education is bad. “Lower” education is worse.


22 posted on 12/11/2017 4:41:09 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: robroys woman

I’ve read Robert Oscar Lopez’s articles at a number of different sites over the years.


23 posted on 12/11/2017 4:43:18 AM PST by Tax-chick ("ItÂ’s not like a productive member of society would have been lost." ~ PAR35)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes, it’s just that American thinker has such a great “stable” of op-ed writers.


24 posted on 12/11/2017 4:45:54 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman

Not many of my favorites ... but that’s why it’s good to have a variety of platforms.


25 posted on 12/11/2017 4:47:51 AM PST by Tax-chick ("ItÂ’s not like a productive member of society would have been lost." ~ PAR35)
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To: robroys woman

Not many of my favorites ... but that’s why it’s good to have a variety of platforms.


26 posted on 12/11/2017 4:47:52 AM PST by Tax-chick ("ItÂ’s not like a productive member of society would have been lost." ~ PAR35)
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To: Jim Noble

I haven’t seen the new MCAT, but in the past it was a pretty good predictor of performance in medical school. Given grade inflation and other contributors, I think standardized testing has an important place.


27 posted on 12/11/2017 4:57:36 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Jim Noble
90% of college students don't belong there. Fix that, the rest will quickly fall into place.

The fix is easy: make them pay for their own way, stop making the rest of us subsidize their education! Individuals will rarely spend their own money on something they think is not going to do them any good. As long as Americans continue to throw ever increasing amounts of money at education, the providers will happily charge more and come up with all sorts of clever reasons for why they need more still.

That is why we get all these zany courses and socialist rot. That's how the resulting education bureaucracy gets more at the expense of the rest of us. Going by the increasing amount the Education Beast has been feasting on it has learned well what arguments work to keep it growing bigger and fatter still ! Students who don't care are desserts for it's slop trough!

28 posted on 12/11/2017 5:00:15 AM PST by Nateman (The louder the left screams , the better it is for America!)
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To: RoosterRedux

“women need to be closely protected from rape. Men need guidance to transform themselves from impulsive sex maniacs”

Another female ass-kisser, with the usual men = sex beast, and females = innocent flowers routine.


29 posted on 12/11/2017 5:03:24 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: RoosterRedux

This article is disgusting. Author has totalitarian tendencies. The only policy change I favor is less funding.


30 posted on 12/11/2017 5:10:42 AM PST by impimp
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To: RoosterRedux

Undergrads are a problem but graduate students really suck.


31 posted on 12/11/2017 5:19:55 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: impimp
The only policy change I favor is less funding.

Amazing how these masterminds think that by simply adjusting the right knob or following their sage advice on what needs to be tweaked or taught all will be solved. You got the solution in a single sentence!

32 posted on 12/11/2017 5:40:33 AM PST by Nateman (The louder the left screams , the better it is for America!)
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To: RoosterRedux

There is a large group of people that make up a subclass of Liberals that believe your rank in society should be based on how many degrees, what kind they are, and from what schools they are.

It is almost like a religion, reminds me of this lady from Alaska with 14 master degrees, for her entire life she would travel to Washington State for the Winter and enroll in classes. Her favorite pastime was telling everyone how great she is and listing off her degrees as proof of her worth.

As far as I could tell, these were her only life accomplishments and she felt entitled to tell everyone else they are wrong because they didn’t have enough education to know any better.


33 posted on 12/11/2017 8:25:39 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: 4Liberty; Alberta's Child; AmericanVictory; AnAmericanMother; AndyJackson; arrogantsob; ...
Provocative ideas for the reformation of our universities indoctrination centers of hedonist nihilism.


Graduate & Professional Degree ping

To be added to (or dropped from) this occasional ping list, freepmail Albion Wilde.

34 posted on 12/11/2017 12:55:45 PM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Tax-chick
When you have a huge system like “education” or “health care,” it’s easy to theorize about how better results could be achieved. However, it’s nearly impossible to move from “what we have now” to “something totally different.”

You are correct that it will take a long time, but we have started chipping away; and some incursions are possible until one of the big ones falls. Then, we may hope for a domino effect.

I also think the internet is helping expose the "fake education" at the major schools the same way it is sowing justifiable mistrust in many of our news organizations. This will encourage applicants and corporate hiring managers to look to smaller and less expensive schools.

The internet and online education are carving a bite out of higher ed. It may not be much now, but considering the collapse of admissions to some of the schools after ridiculous outbursts of leftism have taken place, some institutions are vulnerable on a piecemeal basis.

Examples:

When Satanists wanted to hold a Black Mass at Harvard's Memorial Hall honoring war dead, the alumni soon "reasoned" with the adminstration to deny access, demonstrating that alumni money still talks, in spite of Harvard's gargantuan endowment.

U Missouri's admissions plunged after an explosion of BLM in 2015 caught the interest of viral social media across the country.

Last year's anti-white, anti-authority protests at Evergreen University have lowered enrollment alarmingly, and one of the white science professors who was targeted for destruction (for not wanting to suspend classes in order to participate in denouncing his own race) successfully sued.

In 2014, born-again Christian conservative UNC-W professor of criminal justice Mike Adams won a seven-year long battle for tenure that had previously been denied because of his viewpoint, allowing him to continue not just teaching future law enforcement professionals, but also his Townhall columns that excoriate excesses of political correctness on campuses across the nation.


35 posted on 12/11/2017 1:30:39 PM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: RoosterRedux
taught random concepts

The concepts that are taught are not at all random. It is an attempted indoctrination into a leftist cult. Random conservative ideas, christian ideas, or ideas from the Western classics are intentionally omitted, not randomly interjected.

And when you see it in action and you know better you just feel it is all fraudulent.

But all of this has been said already, and much better, by Alan Bloom in the Closing of the American Mind.

36 posted on 12/11/2017 1:54:46 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Alberta's Child; samtheman; RoosterRedux; Tax-chick
"system of certifications"

it makes a lot of sense for a person’s competency to be tested through the industry, not a system of “higher education” that may have become completely disconnected from employers over time.


The whole idea of university providing a liberal arts education, broadening the mind to wider aspects of culture besides just one's major, was a good idea that originated before mass communications, and when the culture still had a single originating moral ethos in Judeo-Christianity. Administrators could require a "core curriculum" without it becoming subversive of either one's God or one's nation. All that has gone to hell in a handbasket, and the fillers and fluff are for the most part unneccessary.

Now, people can get "broadened" by access to mass communications, although the level of historic or factual accuracy is at present quite low. Some creative media companies could find a market for various packages of "liberal arts" materials, similar to the Great Books series, and crafted for various media platforms, with certification possible on completion. This would enable engineers to get dates.

Just joking; however, individuals could add to thier portfolio of certifications throughout their lives, avoiding the life-altering wreck of immorality, indoctrination and mental and physical threats that four-year sleep-away college now inflicts.

The market could sort out which types of materials are viable, and any number of cultural institutions could commission packages—the New York City Library, Heritage Foundation, the Family Research Council, the Philadelphia Orchestra, the Commonwealth of Virginia, etc. Content might be sort of like public television, but very focused; participants pay for it, and take tests online or some other method to receive a certificate to add to their certificate portfolio.

37 posted on 12/11/2017 1:55:49 PM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde
it’s nearly impossible to move from “what we have now” to “something totally different.

No it isn't. That is what has us here in the swamp so befuddled about Trump. We woke up one day and our cheese had been moved about 1500 miles to some foreign place that was called America. We are waging a desperate war, here in the swamp, but the only people we can battle are swamp critters and whether GOPe or D, they are all irrelevant to what is going on any more. Win or lose we have lost because we aren't in a game anyone cares about.

You can't get anywhere we need to get incrementally in Higher Ed. You just start up something different somewhere else and when it starts to work you will get a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the losers who will go on CNN, like they did to day, and debate the unhealthiness of Trump's habit of drinking 12 diet cokes a day, debating the consequences of a false premise. Oh, and that Trump needs to resign in the face of some very serious allegations. Even Alan Dershowitz pretty much admits they don't have a point, or rather the point they have is dangerous.

Suddenly they wake up and discover they cannot engage a debate on a serious subject. By admitting that a subject is serious they have already lost.

Take Harvard, for instance. This is the school that became prominent in large measure as one of the first great research universities - which it was back in its day. Then it became the supplier of bureaucratic factota for the New Deal Welfare State. Unfortunately that evolved in the 1960s and 70s into the storehouse of radicalism.

Engaged in a process of continuous revolution Harvard has lost its way entirely. It offers neither place nor a viewpoint. It just sits, with a very very large endowment and undermines the ideals of western society convinced that as the seat of everything intellectual there must be new ideas which they create out of their genius, forgetting that there is nothing new under the sum.

38 posted on 12/11/2017 2:09:16 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Read “Closing of the American Mind” when it came out. Powerful stuff.


39 posted on 12/11/2017 3:07:06 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Albion Wilde
The classical university system is dead...even though it is still walking around.

Online schools with tests that prove one's learning will replace universities.

A thousand years ago, I earned my CPA certificate after qualifying by taking equivalency exams.

I basically proved I knew as much as a graduate in accounting by merely studying the texts.

And in my employment at Coopers and Lybrand (in those days)...I moved up with alacrity.

40 posted on 12/11/2017 3:18:16 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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